New in Premiere Pro Beta 15.2 (Build 9) is a refined workflow for controlling how label colors and clip names are displayed in the timeline. Previously you could use a checkbox in the Project settings called “Display the project item name and label color for all instances” to control if your timeline clips used their own independent name and label color or matched the source clip in the Project panel. Now, this option has been removed from the Project Settings and can be found as a view option in the wrench menu in the Timeline panel called “Show Source Clip Name and Label”.
This change means you can easily toggle this view setting via a keyboard shortcut. Additionally, if you are working in a Production you now have a way to control this setting and decide if you want your clip name and label colors to be unique to the timeline, or reflect the source clips.
Let us know how this feature is working for you!
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Hopefully this illustration from my old FR helps explain the persisting issue with grouping 2 unrelated things into the same on/off option:
Moving the option to the Timeline's wrench menu might be helpful to some, but not nearly as helpful as it would be had the underlying problem been fixed. It's like upgrading a car's tires while ingnoring the fact its engine is on fire. 😉 Hopefully this can be sorted out before the official release!
Hi Matt,
The current approach is similar to forcing clips in Pr to be resized both Horizontally and Vertically, but NEVER just horizontally or vertically.
Do most users want to resize clips H+V at the same time? Yes.
Would only allowing simultaneous H+V resizing be 'simpler' to code. Yes.
Does this mean Pr should only ever allow users to resize H+V (never just H or V)? NO!
To solve this, Pr, Photoshop and most other programs allow the H and V values to be locked or unlocked from each other. If it's so important that users be able to turn both clip name and label color sync on/off at the same time, couldn't a simple lock checkbox achieve this?
I find it hard to believe that saving users the extra half second it would take them to check/uncheck 2 side-by-side options takes precedence over the very real need some users have to sync just one of the two settings rather than both, which no amount of time spent in Pr (half second or half century) can currently solve. If saving users that half second is so important, then by all means add a lock checkbox to optionally lock both settings to each other. This would be a logical approach that respects the needs of all users, rather than disregarding the needs of some in order to provide a benefit to others that's negligible at best.
The main reason I need to label individual clip segments in my Timeline rather than having all instance of the clip colored in unison is to visually mark Warp Stabilized clips so that I can easily refer back to them later once they finish analysing. Here's how I go about doing that with a single shortcut:
For this reason I always kept the sync checkbox off, but lost the benefit of syncronized clip names in the process.
Hopefully this helps illustrate the benefit of seperate sync options.
As for the argument that the decision was also made to "aligns with how Premiere Pro has worked up until this point", if that's the case, then why even make the change from Premiere to Premiere Pro back in 2003? 😉 When something is fundamentally broken, the solution IMO is to fix it rather than perpetuating the problem just for the sake of alignment with past 'brokeness'.
If anything isn't clear, please let me know! 🙂
I think this illustration pretty much sums it up.
The only thing it leaves out are the pros and cons from the Pr team's perspective:
Separate Settings
Pro: would provide flexible options that respect the needs of all users
Con: takes more work to code in needed flexibility
Unified Settings
Pro: less work to code plus keeps new inflexible design 'consistent' with inflexibility of previous design*
Con: it remains an inflexible design
*To be fair, the argument of consistency (i.e. as Matt wrote: "aligns with how Premiere Pro has worked up until this point".) turns from a Pro into a Con when it is used to perpetuate an inflexible design.
Question: Does anyone need to change this setting on such a regular basic that the extra half second it would take them to turn 2 settings on/off vs 1 would actually outweigh the benefits of flexibility to all other users?
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts regarding this. Thanks!
"This change means you can easily toggle this view setting via a keyboard shortcut."
I just realized that there's a simple solution that would make it possible for users to toggle both separate settings I suggest on/off at the same time, thus providing both convenience and flexibility at the same time: Give users the option of assigning a keyboard shortcut to each of the two individual syncing options I'm proposing, and allow the same shortcut to be assigned to both, thus effectively linking both options together so users can easily turn both on/off in a single step!
This would effectively remove the only true Con for Seperate settings and the only Pro worth mentioning for the current unified setting. Here's an updated illustration to show the changes:
Note: If a user has one sync option on and the other off, and they use an identical keyboard shortcut that turns both settings on/off, then in this rare situation the toggle could simply default to turning the off option to on, before toggling both options off when the shortcut is pressed again.
What do you think?
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