P: Premiere Pro v25 - Lumetri color wheel bug

[AndrewTheGreat]

In Lumetri color of Premiere Pro v25 there's a bug with using color wheels. If you put your mouse cursor over one of them, click and drag it to change the color, the mouse moves about 5 milimetres and stops even though you are dragging it further on. When you release the mouse button, the cursor jumps to the position where you dragged it to. Reproduced easily, two of my collegues confirmed.

 

[EDITpool-616]

Updated to PrPro 2025 and brought in single MXF (Sony XAVC LongGOP @35Mbps)

Testing out program

Applied Lumetri Color to Clip & "Basic Correction" controls worked fine. Reset those controls.

Used Color Wheels under "Color Wheels & Match" and the Shadows/Mids/Highlights sliders only move a 1/8 of the slide distance when clicking & dragging the control

If I keep dragging the Controller, the image in the Program monitor doesn't change until I release the Controller, and then it pops to where I selected, but I can't control it enough in real-time to do color adjustments.

System: Win11 Pro (i9-9900k @3.60GHz) 
RAM: 64 GB
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super (8 GB vRAM); Studio Driver version 565.90
Premiere Pro 2025

[R Neil Haugen]

Yea, that's weird.

Simply clicking anywhere, it jumps to where you click.

Using an Elements panel, the wheels work as expected.

It is ONLY in click/drag, that the + dign stops moving pretty quick. BUT ... on letting up on the mouse button, it jumps to where you had dragged it.

Thanks for posting!

Edit: calling! @mattchristensen to get this to correct team devs.

[EDITpool-616]

@R Neil Haugen Elements panel?

I had same experience under Effect Controls, is there another panel I should try out?

[R Neil Haugen]

Tangent Elements control surface. Full on colorists control board ...

[MyerPj]

Neil is referring 'panel' to hardware.

[R Neil Haugen]

This has been reported by someone else yesterday, and I confirmed it on my machine. So there's already a thread about this issue.

[AndrewTheGreat]

Good to know. If someone merges my discussion to the one mentioned by Neil, I'll be much obliged

[EDITpool-616]

Ah, dang.

Wait, does that mean @Kevin-Monahan /Adobe are sending out free Tangent Elements panels?!? 😄

[R Neil Haugen]

I'm sure Tangent/Wave would love that!   lol

In Premiere, any Tangent kit, Elements, Wave2, or Ripple, is a Swiss Army knife tool. Not just color but anything can be mapped to them.

Audio? On the Elements, you have 12 knobs, three wide four 'down'. Which can be used for audio ... setting pans, volume, even "latching" modes if you want. Wave2 has several knobs, even the Ripple has the three knobs used as rings. Again, mappable for audio work.

Graphics? Well, yea, knobs/rings can be set to handle postion, sizing, and rotation controls.

So even a Ripple can give you a tremendous total production speed boost.

[Gry32504730xsva]

When we start color grading, this shadow part is not reducing properly. Please check this once.

[Gry32504730xsva]

Premiere pro 2025

[vardan1993]

Yeah, unfortunately I have the same problem in Lumetri panel and also working with curves

[Ann Bens]

If you want help:

Please post comp specs, Premiere version and build.
Also screenshots of MediaInfo info in Treeview on footage used and sequence settings and entire UI showing Lumetri and clip in Effect controls and Program monitor.

https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

[Roberto35651635fev6]

I have the same issue; in fact, this issue is present in the beta as well.

[kayden_6527]

Lumetri Color delay in Curves , Color Wheels and Match.
Very terrible at color correction. Please fix this error soon

[amanda35238072x5xc]

The same thing happens with the creative tab Tint wheels.

Also, curves are completely broken - you can't drag the middle point as usual if your cursor goes out of the working area. Just try to adjust black point and move your cursor a bit lower than the black point - you'll get the idea.

Another update, another bugs. Lot of bugs actually.

[amanda35238072x5xc]

Same here

[Satish_Ramakrishnan]

Could you let us know what you mean by "not reducing properly?" Is this with a specific clip? 

[R Neil Haugen]

Yes, details are necessary. OS/RAM/GPU and GPU driver particularly.

Also ... have you done anything to change the full/legal level in GPU or monitor settings?

Are you using a full level setting in the camera, now available with some cameras? Which is ... just completely wrong. You do not get any additional image data for that, only messed up video post processing.

[Kevin-Monahan]

YES! I am still awaiting my own! (just kidding....). @EDITpool-616 - you may try Premiere Pro Beta 25.1. See if it is more responsive.

Thanks,
Kevin

[IanB_360]

Hi @kayden_6527 

Welcome to the Premiere Pro forums! We are glad to see you here. We need a few more details to try to help with the issue. Please see, How do I write a bug report ?

Thanks for submitting your bug report. I hope we can help you soon. Sorry for the frustration!

Thanks,

Ian

[Claire H.]

Updating Status. Bug reported and being investigated by the Adobe team.

[R Neil Haugen]

I can't replicate those issues on my computer.

That color wheels issues from the other users, yes.

[Itam]

Yes, same thing here. After updating to 25.0.0  the color wheels seem to have some kind of lag when controlling them.
Specs:
Premiere 25.0.0 (build 61)

Win 11 (up-to-date)
EVGA Nvida GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB GDDR6 (v. 565.90 Studio drivers)
32GB RAM
i7-13700K

Example clip:
Type: MPEG Movie
File Size: 86,28 MB
Image Size: 1920 x 1080
Frame Rate: 50,00
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 16-bit - Stereo
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Stereo
Total Duration: 00:00:06:12
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1,0
Alpha: None
Color Space: Rec. 709
Color Space Override: Off
Input LUT: None
Video Codec Type: MP4/MOV H.264 10 bit 4:2:2

[AndrewTheGreat]

A video illustration for those who cannot reproduce the issue: