P: Splitting a caption causes a third, tiny copy to get added to the end

[MakingAToZ]

Selecting a caption and clicking the Split Caption button in the Text > Captions pane is often causing me to get a third copy of the caption get added at the end of split one (now two). It's often very small in the track and only found by seeing it in the Text > Captions list. I'm not sure of any other correlates to this weird behaviour.

Version 24.5.0 for Win 11.

[Ron Rigler]

@MakingAToZ thank you for reporting this issue. I will share this with the team and hopefully we can resolve this quickly.

[Kevin-Monahan]

Thanks for the bug report, @MakingAToZ! I hope we can help you ASAP.

Cheers,
Kevin

[Kevin-Monahan]

The status of this bug report has been updated.

[perdimo4ka]

Hello, I’m experiencing an issue while using the subtitle creation tool. After generating the initial subtitles through the transcription function and converting them into draft subtitles, I edit them. Occasionally, some sentences are too long, so I use the "split subtitle" tool to break them into smaller parts. However, the tool often creates a third, seemingly "phantom" subtitle instead of just splitting the subtitle in two. This extra subtitle appears to be a bug and typically occupies an empty slot on the editing timeline. I’ve recorded a screen capture video to demonstrate precisely how this error occurs.

I showed how error happens on the attached screen recording file

[Stan Jones]

@perdimo4ka,

At least one other user reported this in an earlier version. What version are you using? I was not able to replicate the problem.

I can't look up notes. I am displaced because of the hurricane affecting Western North Carolina, and I forgot to bring my laptop back when I went home yesterday briefly.

Stan

[perdimo4ka]

I’m currently using version 24.6.3, and the bug remains. It was also present in previous versions.

[Stan Jones]

I found the other report:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/splitting-a-caption-causes-a-third-tiny-copy-to-get...

@Kerstin Ebert 

Stan

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hi,

Please provide the developers with more information. See, How do I write a bug report?

Thanks,
Kevin

[Binnur238206144xc9]

I'm experiencing the same issue, it hasn't been fixed yet. 

I have to manually delete the extra captions and it looks really bad when you miss one. 

[Stan Jones]

@MakingAToZ,

Yes, you reported this in PR 24.5.0, and another report from 24.6.3 was merged with it. The other report includes a screen recording showing a one-frame-long third segment after the split is executed from the captions panel. In that video, the start/end time of the selected segment is 27:28/28:48, a total of probably 80 frames at 60fps. When you select in the Captions tab, the playhead is set to the beginning of the caption segment. Executing a split should split it in half. In the video, we can see the 3 new segments are 27:28/28:07 (39 frames); 28:07/28:47 (40 frames); and 27:27/28:48 (1 frame). (Let's ignore the fact that PR treats caption timecode begin/end as overlapping. Timecode 28:48 shows no caption. SubtitleEdit will tell you these timecodes are overlapping and illegal, but they work just fine.)

I was unable to replicate at the time, nor currently in PR 25.2.3, but I am Win 10. When I do this, I get 2 equal segments.

Since it now happens for you every time, some tests might be helpful. You are selecting in the Captions tab, and, I assume, clicking the split icon/button. Do you get the 1 frame extra? And 1 less frame in the first vs second segment?

Set the playhead in the middle (or wherever) of a caption segment in the timeline, and be sure the caption is selected. Ctrl+K to cut. Does the third segment appear?

(This post will probably get merged with the earlier one.)

Stan