V24.6.0: Transcript using audio time units, leaving gaps during Extract edits

[seanmcnally98]

Currently on version 24.6.0, Build 86, Windows 10.  In addition to auto-selecting text on the timeline when text is highlighted, the Text Panel can also move the playhead to a specific word's position when clicked. For example, if the text is:

"The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog"

and I click without dragging on the word "jumped", the playhead will move to the moment on the timeline where the word "jumped" is said.  The problem is, the position the playhead jumps to is in audio time units, not frames, even when "Show audio time units" is deselected.  This means, if I click on "brown", manually place an in point, then click on "lazy", and manually place an out point, then do an Extract edit, there will be a gap between the two clips, since the "in" and "out" points were placed on samples, not frames.

To be clear, clicking and dragging while "Automatically set in/out points" is selected does not have this issue, it will cut on frames as expected.  However, when you are making edits to a very long transcript, and need to scroll very far down the transcript to find the point where you'd like to place your "out" point, dragging and highlighting is not ideal.

This new behavior of moving the playhead to the nearest sample rather than frame was not present in previous versions of premiere, and should only be expected from the end user when "Show Audio Time Units" is selected.  Otherwise, it should move to the nearest frame.  Thanks for you time reading this.

[Stan Jones]

Here's one way I tested it.  Zoom the timeline fully in to frame level. The right/left arrow demonstrates that it moves by exact frames: the playhead is on the frame mark with the blue indicator to the right to the next frame. You can see the word you are on in the transcript. Click on a word in the transcript and press the right/left arrow. The playhead is now following the transcript, which is obviously timed more precisely than frames. You can see that the playhead move in-between frames, by varying amounts, with the blue indicator extending into the next frame's space.

I only saw the problem with in/out position (set to inbetween frame markers) if I used i/o in the transcript tab. And to set an out after in, I had to turn off the auto in/out function. Executing a lift shows that the video cuts to frame, but the audio track does not. Just weird!

I could not tell whether this was a display issue or actual cut issue. In any event, upvoted.

@Kerstin Ebert @alexander-riss Does this look like a bug to you? Is it actually affecting the extract/lift?

The timing of individual words "under the hood" seems like magic to me. And some users have complained about cuts not being accurate to particular words.

Stan

[seanmcnally98]

In my experience, it is actually affecting the edit. I had black flash frames on my timeline after manually placing in/out points (auto in/out disabled) then extracting.