Captions disappear with certain letter combinations, for example "fi" and "fl" in PP 2023

[Aleksandr306635499nzc]

I'm trying to create a caption that has the word "find" in it. Much to my bewilderment, the caption disappears every time I type the letter combination "fi." It is kind of hilarious. It also does it when I type "fl." It doesn't do it with any other combination of letters I'm aware of, as I tried following "f" with every other letter in the alphabet, and the caption does not disappear. It also does not disappear when I type a capital "F." Truly baffling. Overall, the text functions in this program are not good. This is not the only bug but currently the most troublesome one for me. 

[Aleksandr306635499nzc]

Solved.

Saw this in some other threads, fixed it by changing font from Lucida Grande, which has "ligatures," which Premiere can't process, to Helvetica, which does not have ligatures. 

[jstrawn]

I marked your own response correct, because you are right that you just needed a font that fully supports ligature sets like fl and fi. If you want to stay with an Adobe font, Myriad (which is sans serif) and Minion (which is serif) are both good choices. I do recommend using Adobe fonts if possible because those will auto activate in the future if needed.

Can you share the link to the other thread you read so I can merge this into there?

[Aleksandr306635499nzc]

Here are the three threads I looked at that were in my "Related
Conversations" sidebar after I had posted my comment:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/acrobat-discussions/acrobat-displays-squares-instead-of-narrow-letter...

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/premiere-pro-crashes-when-typing-quot-fi-quo...

https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker-discussions/graphic-from-corel-designer-x6-pasted-into-fra...

Thank you!

[jstrawn]

Ok I will leave this thread as is then since the Pr crasher one involved having faux styles on it as well and the other two threads are for Acrobat and Frames

[Czar Hey]

Still having this problem in version 25.1.0. This is especially puzzling given how Lucida Grande is the default font (at least for me, unless I misremembered and changed some setting somewhere); the default font should not have issues like this.

Ideally, Premiere Pro should either:

• Provide the user with an error message informing them as to why "fi" is not a valid combination, rather than failing silently; or
• Utilize an internal workaround to allow the letter combination to appear correctly.

In my case, I was able to get "fi" to appear by inserting a zero-width space between the "f" and "i". You can copy a zero-width space by going to https://www.editpad.org/tool/invisible-character, then scrolling down to "Zero-Width Space" (unicode U+200B); or by copying the following (which has the zero-width space character in it):

"f​ind"

Perhaps Premiere Pro could internally add the zero-width space automatically so it won't break like this. If anything, it should not fail silently and leave the user confused.