I have to render again everytime i reopen Premiere Pro 2017, why ? solution ?

[julianm44443758]

The bar above the clips is yellow again after reopening although before saving last time the bar was all green after rendering. Happens everytime i reopen premiere pro

[Ana Maria 41]

Thank you! I think that's the correct answer but...In my case, I have it configurated in "Same as project" with more than 4T available. What could be a solution?

[julianm44443758]

Thank you all for your answers, I'll look into it. Another problem that I haven't really get an answer from Adobe is that although my 4k compressed mp4 video files upload fast within seconds to my computer from my harddrive , it takes about 5 minutes (and now often stuck so i need to reboot my computer) for those same mp4 or mov files to upload from my external harddrive to Premiere Pro. What is the solution ? I have 16 bg ram in the computer and and changed the ram for other application from 5 to 8gb suggestion from Adobe when I called, which helped and the usb port from harddrive to my computer is is 3.0. But its still aweful. Thanks for your help in advance.

[R Neil Haugen]

Premiere Pro doesn't move files from drive to drive ... so it's not 'uploading' anything. If you're talking time after using the Media Browser panel to select, then right-click/Import the media ... and five minutes before PrPro is done with cache files, that's what it's doing ... making cache files.

Neil

[julianm44443758]

Neil you seem to have a lot of knowledge.  So to try to clarify your answer from the solution's perspective to a layman : So when opening Premiere Pro and while media browser automatically starts to upload the video files, in order to make the upload more effective, I should right click somewhere ? or uncheck cache files box somewhere ?

[R Neil Haugen]

Terms mean something, and certainly have the power to confuse ... "uploading" is the process of copying files from one media to another hardware setup, such as uploading from a memory card from a camera to a computer hard-drive/SSD.

When you start up PrPro, it doesn't "upload" anything ... it loads files into RAM and looks through the cache files for data applicable to the current project loaded. Depending on what it finds it may create ("generate") audio cache and "pek" files and a few other things. This is probably part of what you're seeing.

The Media Browser doesn't automatically upload anything ... it only imports what files you use it to navigate to on disc, select, and then click import.

When you use the Media Browser to import files, it doesn't move them anywhere ... it only imports the data about those files into the PrPro media cache database. Depending on how many & what type of media or other assets you're importing, it will generate data for the internal database about that media, so PrPro knows what to do with that media. After "importing" assets into PrPro, you utilize them from the Project Panel.

When you create bins in PrPro's Project panel, and move things into them, whether sequences, clips, sub-clips, graphics, whatever, nothing is moved on disc. PrPro's bins are a "virtual" means of organizing where you collect and access bits of your project from within PrPro. PrPro's bins have nothing whatever to do with where the media is stored in the computer.

Does that help some?

Neil

[julianm44443758]

Thank you, it is certainly a thorough long answer with knowledge. Regarding my problem though I'm still trying to find a solution

[Bill_Gehrke]

How full is that external drive?

Where are your Adobe Premiere folders "Media Cache" and "Media Cache Files"  located?

[julianm44443758]

Plenty of space in the external harddrive .  Video preview files also saved in that external harddrive same location.   But Media Cache Database is in in the computer's internal harddrive as Adobe is.  It seems that I have problems mainly when the media browser "uploads" a large amount of video files from a particular folder with the most amount of video files in it from my external harddrive.  Also when i open premiere pro it says missing files , which I just cancel and proceed so i don't think that's the problem.

[Bill_Gehrke]

I guess I do not understand the Media Browser maybe because I rarely use it.  Once the files are in Project Window what does the Media Browser have to do with the project.  I thought the Media Browser was just used to locate files and once located it should not be involved in restarting a project.  Or am I wrong on that.

As you can afford it you will find SSD's are the way to go.  On this laptop I can very comfortably and smoothly edit files with long GOP structure like my son's GoPro 4K media at full resolution off of a USB 3 portable SSD like the Samsung T3.  While it does have a yellow line above the timeline in Premiere Pro (no effects applied), when it plays without any lost frames and it almost instantly allows me to move from my laptop to my desktop I could not be happier.  Of course I do have SSD's for the OS/Applications in both cases.

Oh I just cleared both caches and plugged the T3 back into my laptop and played the timeline back with 1 frame lost.

[excited_Genie16B8]

I recommend Step 3H.

Unofficial Premiere Pro Troubleshooting Guide

[julianm44443758]

Jim you are probably right, it's just that the video files are quite large to store in the computer's internal hard drive. How about checking the box to automatically delete media cache files? Because when I encountered the problem I noticed that  Premiere Pro was taking 99% of its CPU and memory

[excited_Genie16B8]

the video files are quite large to store in the computer's internal hard drive.

The proper solution there is a larger internal hard drive for media.

Editing requires lots of space.  I do recommend accommodating that, rather than trying to avoid it.

[gregory31113881ebvl]

Hi I had the same issue after update called a free fine number for Adobe the very kind man to remote access of my computer and fix this issue 

call them up it’s a settings migration problem I am a happy man now I hope this helps

[gregory31113881ebvl]

Call them they will sort it I had the same issue it’s a settings migration issue 

[zeitlosmedia]

I'm having a similar issue with my feature documentary.

It seems, over a certain length, Premiere fails when loading the project/timeline and just pretends I have no rendered previews.

EVERY TIME I restart Premiere I have to re-render the previews for the entire timeline, not just the effects. My timeline is 1 hour and 47 minutes long, and it would be nice if I could open my file and playback my film in the timeline when starting fresh from a reboot...

2024, and still no solution Adobe???

[R Neil Haugen]

No details means no real help available sadly.

OS/CPU/RAM, specific number.number version of Premiere.

And the project uses what sort of storage,  local, NAS, what?

Old-style stand alone project, or a Production?

(And for that size of project it of course should be in a Production.)

[Aprime]

Some of you guys treat this bug like it's device-specific, but I've been experiencing it accross multiple machines with sufficient storage. It's been a known problem since I've been professionally editing. The preview files themselves are still there and can be chronologically dropped off on the timeline depending on how you rendered them, but Premiere can't seem to pick up on the fact that *the files are there*.

It happens regardless of the version of Premiere or the drive it's on (same as project or a secondary drive on my system). It would be easy to explain away with the "drive is not available" theory, except the drives are always available, and when they're not, it's fairly easy to decipher the problem.

It happened with cineform as a work format and it happens with prores, it doesn't seem to matter what I work with, it just happens. I'll grant that I don't work with compressed footage, though, so maybe you don't allocate enough time for drives to be read (nvme drives, but filesizes could play into it?), maybe it's something else, just please for the love of God test your software.

[Warren Heaton]

Hi @Aprime 

Sorry to hear you are experiencing an issue.

I use Premiere Pro daily and have not had this issue.  I am currently using 23.6.2.  Which version are you on?

Have you tried uisng a mezzanine CODEC?  These can function as their own preview file in the Timeline.

[PARAGON36138930s7bi]

I also have this same issue, i'm a documentary film maker and this is my second doc editing in premiere and ive just gotten used to rendering the whole thing every time before I start, but it's getting so annoying that i'm considering using a different editing program. Its very annoying to do that for an hour long film with lots of effects. my scratch disk/preview files are not the issue, they are on a 12tb hard drive which is also the destination drive of the project file etc, it's got numerous TB of space. it's the same thing as all the other posters described, regardless of i rename the file or just hit "save" the next time i open it i have to re-render EVERYTHING. I'm using an apple computer and version 14.9.0 of premiere 

[R Neil Haugen]

As most of us can't replicate it, it would seem to definitely be device specific in some sense, wouldn't it?

It's a real pain if you're getting it, that's a given. And that some users do get this mess is also a given.

But ... the why ... that's the elusive thing so far. 

And ... if most of us users aren't getting it, and the devs haven't replicated it, I'd say it's not about simply testing the software. They DO.  And again, most users aren't getting this crud.

So there's a troubleshooting process that has to determine what triggers the blame thing. Which over the years, some really odd things have found to be a 'trigger' for some weird stuff. Like ... the onedrive.dll file fiasco back about 2017. On some Windows machine, but only a small subset, the onedrive.dll file caused all sorts of mess. Delete that from your system, the behavior stopped.

But ... only some of us on PCs got that, including me. One user sat at his computer for a couple days, going through I don't know how many files ... system files included ... and deleted one file at a time. Rebooted. Made sure Windows seemed 'normal', then launched Premiere. After the gazilionth file, he happened to delete onedrive.dll.

Voila, problems gone! 

So he posted here, a bunch of us were able to replicate it, and ... the devs could find a fix as they knew it was some interaction with what that file did on the computer.

That's how freakishly bizarre things have been. Another is a sound card that was pretty popular. A driver update (which occurred in the background, no one knew that had been updated) messed up Premiere ... but only for those users with that sound card and that specific driver.

[Hecubus114]

Add me to the list of people annoyed by this. In my attached video, you will see a project with rendered previews on my timeline. I show how in the project settings, most of the options are set to "same as project". When I save and close Premiere Pro, then immeadiately reopen it to the same project, no rendered previews are loaded. This is especially problematic because these previews take a LONG time to render (warp stabilizer, noise reduction, etc.). Here are my machine specs - but, as stated by others, this is an issue I've battled with for years over different machines.

Mac Studio

Apple M1 Ultra

OS Sonoma 14.5

[R Neil Haugen]

Just as a practical matter, I normally recommend when using video noise reduction or Warp, that one work that effect to completion ... then rather than 'render previews' ... do a full render & replace to something like ProRes 422.

This way the heavy processing is done and will not affect any further work. You can always "restore" if needed, of course. But playback, further effects, general editing, and especially exports will go so much faster, smoother, and reliably.

Again, simply a practical suggestion.

[Hecubus114]

Yes, I can see that... but is this not the sole purpose of having video previews? If I'm willing to wait for these clips to be rendered ONCE so I can continue editing smoothly (vs exporting them, waiting for that to finish, then importing them into my project), that in iteself would be worth doing. But not if I have to redo it EVERY TIME I close and open the project.

Like... where are my rendered previews going when close and reopen Premiere? I basically do what you describe out of habit after all these years (if I really want to see the effects active in the edit - sometimes it's needed for placement of graphics on a stabilized clip, for example). But I shouldn't have to... right?

There's plenty of workarounds. It's just annoying and I wish I knew how to make it work correctly.

[Hecubus114]

Interesting update: I changed my project settings to save video previews in my documents folder, instead of "same as project". I then rendered a small portion of the timeline, closed and reopened Premiere, and it did in fact use the video preview this time. So it seems something about finding them on the external drive (or perhaps just the "same as project" setting) is causing a disconnect.

Frustrating that, as far as I know, I can't just tell Premiere to use the video previews I have sitting in a folder.

[Warren Heaton]

@Hecubus114 

How is the external drive formatted?  Fat32, ExFat, NTFS, HFS, HFS+. APFS?