Questions about searching/managing metadata in Premiere and Lightroom

[Jeena22389650a1ho]

I have a few questions. The first is:

First question overview:

Can keywords/other metadata from Premiere/Lightroom automatically populate to the other program?

Is there a way to have an automatic two way stream metadata changes between Lightroom and Premiere Pro?

Explanation:

I manage all of my photo/video content from within Lightroom. I have for years. All of my content lives in dated folders in Lightroom. This is the best way for me for managing my large catalog of content. So, the way I think about it is that all of my photos and videos live in dated folders there in Lightroom, where I either edit them (the photos), or simply manage them there (i.e. for the videos, I of course can't edit them, so I just add keywords/change metadata occasionally).

I then import certain video files into any given project in Premiere, and organize them into bins that make sense for any given Premiere project.

My asks are two-fold:

I want to be able to search within Premiere for metadata such as keywords that I have attached to certain files in Lightroom prior to import into Premiere, but also to any keyword updates that I have done in Lightroom after those files were imported into Premiere.

Can I use these two programs together seamlessly to manage their metadata, so the changes in one program automatically populate to the other? I know that I can write LR changes to a sidecar XMP file, so I imagine a potential solution may involve this option, though Premiere would need the ability to constantly be scanning this XMP for updates in order to keep the keywords field up to date, as well as have the ability to write to it in case I edit keywords from within Premiere at some point, so that whenever I am back in LR, I can see the updates.

Another question, now about location metadata specifically:

I am also very interested in being able to search my content according to location from within Premiere. As it stands, in Lightroom, I can search for my files by location by navigating to the map tab. Is there any equivalent in Premiere?

Thanks so much to all of you folks who so graciously answer our questions here. You are appreciated!

[Jeena22389650a1ho]

To add on to this. As LR is metadata based with regard to its non-destructure edits, and can write those changes to an XMP sidecar, is there a way for me to be able to import one of these content folders into Premiere as described above, and presuming a folder in question has not only video but also still photos, have Premiere auto-populate any edits to photos that that I do in Lightroom? for example, I import some photos into a lightroom bin on Monday. Add em to a timeline, and get to editing. On tuesday, I do some new edits to those photos in Lightroom. I want Premiere to automatically populate the Tuesday Lightroom edits.

[Kevin-Monahan]

Dear @Jeena22389650a1ho,

Thanks for your question. I have not heard of anyone doing this, but it appears that others have tried sharing metadata between the two applications but not really succeeded. It would be great to develop a workflow that would unlock some of the capabilities of metadata. Here's what I have for you so far: 

• User guide documentation: https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/metadata.html
• User post trying a similar function: https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/viewing-lightroom-metadata-in-premiere-pro/m...
• User exported metadata from Premiere Pro using custom preset: https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/solved-can-t-add-metadata-to-mp4-exports-fro...
• There is no "map" in Premiere Pro for mapping metadata locations that I am aware of, like there is in Lightroom. I do like that feature.

After perusing user experiences, metadata sharing might be broken, so if that is the case, I can work with you to get a bug filed. Sorry for the frustration.

Thanks,
Kevin

[Conrad_C]

I use both applications, often dragging images from the Lightroom Classic grid view and dropping them in the Project window in Premiere Pro. I was under the impression that the metadata doesn’t come across, but then I realized that I had never really looked. When I did test it tonight, I was pleasantly surprised to find that I had been wrong, at least some metadata does come across.

What I had not done earlier, and maybe you haven’t either, is take a closer look at the Metadata panel in Premiere Pro. Like the Metadata panel in Lightroom Classic, it lists a lot of metadata and is customizable. I did a quick test involving a JPEG file exported from Lightroom Classic that I knew had metadata. This is what I found:

• Premiere Pro does read at least some metadata fields from a JPEG image, including Author, Title, Description, Keywords, and Copyright Notice. It might support more, but I only did a quick test. 
• You can inspect all of that in the Premiere Pro Metadata panel (Window > Metadata). 
• If you don’t see fields you are looking for, in the Metadata panel menu choose Metadata Display (see picture below), to see if they can be enabled. 
• If you are looking for metadata (e.g., the word “bird”) that you believe is in one of the fields used in an image exported from Lightroom Classic, but you are not sure which field it’s in, use the search option at the top of the Metadata panel. 
• If you are looking for all files with certain metadata in them, use the search option at the top of the Project panel. 
• I tested only with a JPEG image, not any videos. It is possible that videos don’t work as well, because Lightroom Classic has several known problems involving video metadata. 
• I wondered if Premiere Pro could update metadata changed by another application. I viewed the linked JPEG image in Adobe Bridge and added a keyword, and when I switched back to Premiere Pro, wow, the new keyword was added! 
• Does it go the other way? It worked when I tried it. I added a keyword in the Metadata panel in Premiere Pro, and when I switched to Bridge, the new keyword was there! (In Lightroom Classic, metadata changes made externally won’t show up in the catalog until you choose Metadata > Read Metadata from File.) 

In the picture below, the fields that are filled in the Metadata panel in Premiere Pro are all metadata that I added in Lightroom Classic or Bridge, before importing into Premiere Pro. 

Regarding image edits, Premiere Pro does not read XMP sidecar edits saved to TIFF/JPEG images by Adobe Camera Raw or Lightroom/Lightroom Classic, and doesn’t read camera raw files at all. You must export from Lightroom Classic in a format Premiere Pro supports such as JPEG. If you make future edits in Lightroom Classic, export a new copy of the same image, replacing the old version (using the same filename of course), and Premiere Pro will be able to update the link automatically. 

Adobe After Effects can read camera raw files and their sidecar image edits. In a brief test I found that if After Effects does not notice XMP image edits you’ve made after importing, the Reload Footage command will update the edits.