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AI Upscale Premiere Pro

Community Beginner ,
Oct 23, 2023 Oct 23, 2023

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I would love a feature inside Premiere that utilizes AI for upscaling and restoring videos. I have a substantial amount of standard-definition (SD) material that I'd like to improve in quality.

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Enthusiast ,
Oct 23, 2023 Oct 23, 2023

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Take a look at Topaz Video Ai 

This is a standalone app but has very good capabilities to upscale, reduce grain on low light footage etc. you can download a free demo with watermark.

You do need quite a powerful PC or Mac to speed up processing. 

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Community Expert ,
Oct 23, 2023 Oct 23, 2023

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Yes, Topaz can produce amazing results, and it's continuing to be a work in progress, so it keeps getting better.

 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 23, 2023 Oct 23, 2023

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I did before posting this proposal.  I think Adobe has to have its own engine to do this.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 24, 2023 Oct 24, 2023

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Adobe doesn't have their own engine to do this. They have a concept project called Project ResUp. Whether that becomes something or not is a wait or see type of thing.

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Enthusiast ,
Oct 27, 2023 Oct 27, 2023

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I did suggest as an idea to Topaz Video to integrate it as a Plug In or Extension to Premiere Pro to make workflow much easier.

NEAT Video have a plug in drag and drop over Timeline footage to improve low light noise grain when High ISO is used.

This seems to work much better than the Premiere De-Noise built in feature.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 27, 2023 Oct 27, 2023

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I definitely prefer a standalone version, and I wish Neat had one.

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Enthusiast ,
Oct 29, 2023 Oct 29, 2023

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Depends on what workflow you prefer. To have the two options - standalone or Plug-in would be the best of course !

Anyway, a bit of a non issue at present as the Plug In does not exist.

I have only just purchased Topaz Video Ai (V4 version) so still getting to grips with it.

Seems I have to upgrade my GPU (funds permitting one day) as processing time is slow on some algorithms .

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Participant ,
Dec 01, 2023 Dec 01, 2023

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Hi! I also just bought Topaz Video AI (this cybermonday). What is your current workflow? I am exporting from Premiere Pro as Prores 422 HQ files short clips that have noise and opening them in Topaz Video, doing the denoise there and exporting as another Prores 422 HQ file, importing that to premiere and using that in the timeline to thenm export the complete video. It's very time consuming. Is there a better workflow?

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Community Expert ,
Dec 01, 2023 Dec 01, 2023

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A3, what's you're original footage?

 

I've been using Topaz for a couple years now, and I usually bring in my raw footage. Or, cut my clips without re-encoding using Shutter Encoder. Especially if I have h.264 footage, I tend to put that thru Topaz and create the ProRes in that program.

https://www.shutterencoder.com/en/

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Dec 01, 2023 Dec 01, 2023

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Hi Myer, thanks for the reply. My footage is normally in H264 8bit mp4 from my canon R6 and R7. I just recently started testing the Clog3 profile with H265 422 10bit. I edit my clips on Premiere Pro and just export individual clips that I find have too much noise. I assumed exporting in ProRess 422 HQ to then import in Topaz Video, would be better than exporting in the same h264 mp4 and import that in Topaz to then export it again (wither in the same h264, though topaz has less settings than premiere, or in proress 422 HQ). 
I will check Shutterencoder, thanks for the suggestion. So you are using Topaz for almost all your clips before editing them? 

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Community Expert ,
Dec 01, 2023 Dec 01, 2023

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Once you are in ProRes, the problems become less. So, get your clips into that as soon as possible. Like any video processor, Topaz works better and quicker with ProRes files. I have some family 8mm footage I'm have scanned as we speak (for the third time, 1-sd, 2-hd (film chain) 3- LaserGraphics. Also a bunch of DV tapes from 8mm, 16mm and 3/4" video. I've just seen an h.264 of the Laser Graphics and they look very nice, good improvement. These guys are very cool: https://periscopefilm.com/telecine/

 

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Participant ,
Dec 01, 2023 Dec 01, 2023

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Thanks, so I guess I need to continue doing the my current process: exporting the noisy or "low"res clips from Premiere Pro as Prores 422 HQ and opening them in Topaz Video, doing the denoise / enhance there, exporting as another Prores 422 HQ file, and importing that to premier back to the timeline. I hope Topaz finishes soon devoliping the Premiere Pro plugin (they have a beta version for AE)

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Community Expert ,
Dec 01, 2023 Dec 01, 2023

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Try them both.

  • 1) h.264 into Topaz to export to ProRes, then good to go.
  • 2) Cnvt to ProRes as you are saying, then into Topaz to export again in ProRes.

 

For me 1 works best, saves a generation.

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Participant ,
Dec 07, 2023 Dec 07, 2023

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Thanks, I'll give it a try. I have been exporting to Proress 422 10bit to insert into Topaz, asuming if I exported as H264 mp4 8bit, it would loose more details that could make Topaz not work as good. 

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 07, 2024 Jan 07, 2024

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As some of you may have seen - Beta Plug In for Topaz into Premiere Pro coming very soon (Q1 2024 I would think )

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New Here ,
Jan 15, 2024 Jan 15, 2024

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I saw someone use Topaz to upscale Viva La Bam and the result it quite nice. But $300 is quite pricey for ocassional users as me. Then I digged through google and find some free/open source alternatives, basically they are GUI for AI uspcaling algorithms such as Real-ESRGAN.

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Jan 16, 2024 Jan 16, 2024

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Looks good, I'll give it a try.

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