Change to Color Effect Has Been Removed - Please bring it back.

[Linglingonly_]

Can anyone help me? I just recently turn off my computer for a night's rest then the next day this pops up. My premiere cant seem to find the change to color filter and I dont know how to get it back. pls help need this asap, big thanks.

 

I altered lot using this filter!!! Pls help me need this asap!! Big thanks!!!

Mod note: Title changed slightly.

[Ivano2520029209bt]

So why not leave it in Premiere too? Adults are free to decide...

[R Neil Haugen]

Um, did you miss the different coding bit? Ae and Pr do not run on the same code.

As it's in Ae, the safest bet is the Ae code is significantly different than Pr's. So the Ae effect of same name/function probably cannot be used in Pr.

The effects in the Obsolete bin are there for a reason ... they're ancient code, typically the math is actually a bit dodgy by modern standards (when tested by colorists) ... there is a newer replacement ... ergo, they're toast.

Neil

[Ivano2520029209bt]

Ok, but an effect that was already there and many could still do with using it, still don't get what's the big deal in leaving it in. I'll leave you to have the final word though! 

[Nick Varley]

Yes, yes, all of that makes sense on paper, HOWEVER in the real world, Change to Color was an extremely handy way to change one exact color to another exact color in a few clicks.  I find Color Replace and HSL Secondary to be completely incapable of doing this so I still open Premiere Pro in Intel mode just to use Change to Color.  Maybe someone smarter than me can share an easy way to achieve this that's not "Obsolete".

[Joshua26741718pcu5]

100% agreed!!! Let's bring this one back!!? 

[Joshua26741718pcu5]

Please and thank you YES! That has been my issue and I noticed the same
thing immediately. Thankfully it still opens in the Intel version but this
seriously needs to be revisited by Adobe. It also allows for continuous
color changing a lot smoother than the other effects.

[R Neil Haugen]

There have been several things where they've gone through and updated the app, with issues like this. And unfortunately they don't always get all use-cases for an effect or process 'handled' well in the replacment options.

It took years to get some of the old Titler say keyboard shorts and other things added into the EGP for quicker, more precise working. Again, unfortunately.

This is another. As yea, there's times some particular function, as performed when doing X, is simply required. And may not be nearly as easy nor exactly done with another tool.

I would definitely support getting all that functionality in whatever new tool they want to build. It's needed.

And running over to Ae is not something most of us want to do all the time.

Neil

[Omar29138613hpr2]

Mr. Neil Haugen and Mr. Ann Bens, can you please explain clearly how to change an exact color code to another exact color code in an illustration, the 2 options that give "lumetri color" and "replace color" do not help me to do this function . I would be very grateful for your answer, regards

[Ann Bens]

Do the same for Replace color

[Omar29138613hpr2]

unfortunately I want to go from green #028778 to green #00797D when using replace color it gives me a mixture of these two colors and not the color #00797D which is the one I need.

[Ann Bens]

Your document needs to have the target color (in your case) green #028778 to start with

then you can change to another color.

I dont see any green.

[arkid]

Another frustraited user here. I had no idea that the plugin was obselete. I'd picked it for use just a few years ago in a project and had been using it happily.  Just made the switch from PC to MAC and now find it's not there.

[Abigail34342588npey]

Same thing, I need that tool, I use it all the time to correct clients colors on graphics within thier videos.

[R Neil Haugen]

@mattchristensen  ... how would you suggest changing a color to a precise selected numbered color at this time?

[Ann Bens]

This color replace effect is off; colors are not the same as in the color picker.

[R Neil Haugen]

Yea, which is why i pinged @mattchristensen  ... who's normally pretty good at hopping in on a ping. Sigh.

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hi @Linglingonly_, @Abigail34342588npey, @arkid, and others on the thread,

I have moved this discussion to the "Ideas" forum to be considered for the effect to return to the feature set. Please upvote! Sorry for the frustration.

Personally, I would create a .mogrt containing the effect from After Effects where the effect still exists.

Thanks,
Kevin

[dcijazzman]

Color Replace is missing key tools that were present in Change Color and Change To Color. So, though it has some use, it fails when dealing with gradients and shadows of a color. Also, with old projects, users have to redo every instance of their use of Change Color or Change To Color. Adobe should have kept these two valuable effects. They can correct this error by returning them as soon as possible in an update.

[R Neil Haugen]

Reality is a hard thing. Sorry, I know they were useful for you. I lost a couple I really liked also.

But that "valuable" tool was used by under 1% of the user base. NOT valuable to the vast majority of users. Bad math and ancient code.

You would be better off to give ideas for specific changes you need in the current effects to meet your needs. They aren't going to put time into something almost never used.

[dcijazzman]

Thank you. What was the reason for discontinuing these effects? Why would
Adobe go to the trouble of even taking that step? Did the effects create a
problem for the app's functionality?

Also, does Adobe think 1% of their PP users should have their needs unmet
(particularly when editing older projects that used these effects)?

To answer your call for specific ideas to improve current effects:

1) I have always found Lumetri has too many effects bundled into one large
effect. Simply accessing some of Lumetri's effects takes time. Some of
these effects should be made into simple, single offshoots. Saturation and
Change Color for example. When a user only needs one of these effects, it
seems like it would be easier on the app's functionality to run the single
effect, rather than the full bundle. And it would certainly be easier for a
user like me to use the single effect, if only because I can access the
settings with much less time (no unnecessary scrolling and opening of
drop-down options required).

2A) Please bring back "Change Color" and "Change To Color" as single-use
effects. Update the math and make it GPU-accelerated if necessary, but
please offer the same exact settings/tools that were in the original
versions.

2B) Most importantly, make these new versions of "Change Color" and "Color
To Color" seamlessly open and function when opening older projects that
used these effects. For people like me who used these effects often, it
will save much time and heartache, and I will be left with the impression
that Adobe cares about all its users, even the lowly 1%.

Thank you

[R Neil Haugen]

Staffers have given rather detailed responses several times.

Besides being ancient code, when mixed in process order with GPU Accelerated effects, at times the entire stack of effects get dropped from GPU processes.

Plus, as I've noted, numerous pro colorists did extensive testing of them, and did not find the math used correct in some circumstances. And therefore advised any professional user to avoid them like the plague.

I've never been a huge fan of the Lumetri panel. I made myself rather persona non grata with some supervisors, back when they killed SpeedGrade. For my several lengthy, detailed posts,  pointing out the massive limitations being imposed on us.

That's said, I can push Lumetri to do things many of my colorist acquaintances didn't think it could do. Partly due to having a full Tangent Elements control panel. Which allows you to work multiple controls against each other simultaneously, and that allows for more targeted corrections than seem possible with mouse usage.

I agree with some of your suggestions. Personally I've pushed for each specific tab/section of Lumetri to be selectable in whatever order we would like.

And for us to be able to select say HSL, then Wheels, then Basic, and another HSL if we wish.

[MyerPj]

Jarle Leirpoll has a preset (and an idea) to save some processing power in his free presets pack available here:

https://premierepro.net/jarles-premiere-pro-presets-version-4/

This will lighten up Lumetri instances

[masonminogue]

Hello, Good Afternoon to all the lovely people on thios Adobe community forum. It appears that Adobe has removed the 'Change To Color' effect in video editing under the colcor correction tab. Does anybody know how to chang to color in 2024? I do NOT know how elese to edit the color without it. 

Respecftully, Mason Minogue.

[R Neil Haugen]

Replace Color effect is still there.

Although I have extensive experience in color correction and managment, I'm puzzled at using Change Color for general color correction purposes. Start a new thread on color correction/management for your needs, I'll pop in.

[Adam21903416lp1l]

What does that even mean? where do i find a way to change to color since premiere stupidly removed it?