ericasisme wrote: What does this mean? I'm currently using a 6D with LR 5. I just import and everything works. What will happen when I take my camera out of the box and try to import my new pics? Do I need to add a step to my imports? What is a DNG and how do I use it? LR5 will not and never import native RAW of a 5DM4 and any other newer camera. Ther will be however a version of the ACR program able to convert Canon raw files to DNG. DNG is a universal RAW file format developped by Adobe. Adobe programs can read DNG irrespective from the camera model. ... View more

I do not have a link, as I'm not participating in this beta program. I have no reason to participate. ... View more

thedigitaldog wrote: Anyone speaking of a beta (prerelease) is either breaking his/her NDA or doesn't have any clue about a beta. That's not correct. I have been invited to participate to some beta programs during my carer. It's either a closed group or a public beta. But I never had to sign an NDA. I had however to sign NDA's when I was participating in some very specific training programs, where I got presented source code snippets. As of a beta for ACR, there would be no need nor a reason to participate for me. I only know that there is a beta of ACR out, because I've seen DNG files of the 5DM4 and I've read about it. I do not know about the Adobe policy for ACR, but I could imagine, that Adobe would be glad to find early adopters of the 5DM4 to test the software in numbers. Adobe themselves state that they are working on the software. There is no reason to keep the existance of a beta ACR version under NDA. ... View more

A beta build of Adobe Camera RAW exists, that reads 5DM4 RAW files, so it may be soon released if there are no major glitches. ... View more

Congratulations! I wait until may workflow is supported. And then I may go for a used 5DMIII as a second body. I currently have a 5D MII as my second body that I bought as used equipment. ... View more

weddje wrote: shooting a Wedding this weekend with the canon 5d mark iv. How should I handle roughly 1000 raw files? Any word on an update? Quite simple: Do not use the brand new camera or be prepared to use DPP to convert your data. I would process like this: Doing basic editing in DPP, then exporting to 16bit-TIFF files. This should be OK for further processing in your preferred editor. Ok, not usefull for anyone but just to ventilate: Whats the use of pre ordering such anticipated camera for $4667 (4130euros)? Guess Canon is to blame here. Are you a professional or a hobbyist? As a professional, I would wait until my workflow is supported. It costs much more to change the workflow then to shoot with the still excellent prior model. The difference between 20Mp, 24MP and 30MP does not necessarily justify the invest. As a hobbyist, you do as you think is good for you. ... View more

Look really here for infos ion the catalog file. They are hell important: How Lightroom catalogs work. Equal important is this: Photoshop Lightroom catalog FAQ If you still have questions concerning the catalog, come back to the forum. If you want using a disk on a Mac OSX and on a Windows PC, you need to format the disk as exFAT ( )or install additional software on the Windows system /(to read OSX formated drives) or on the OSX to write NTFS formated drives. OSX can read NTFS drives. I have the impression, that your LR organisation is somehow a little messy. So I suggest, you backup first and the reorganize to have ONE location for your photos and ONE LR catalog. ... View more

If I remember well, the LR 5 catalog comes from an upgrade to LR 6/CC, when LR migrates the old catalog. ... View more

Premiere uses the GPU power a lot, if we talk of Premiere CS5 or later. Memory will help with concurrent running programs. The Multi Core Performance test does not reflect the influence of the GPU, but out of my testing, AI know that as logon as the GPU can be used for transitions, it has a great influence. I didn't test Photoshop, but I suppose that Photoshop is quite similar then LR. ... View more

thedigitaldog wrote: So now you're speaking for both Canon and Nikon? If they want support, why the proprietary format and why didn't they provide Adobe with a sample months ago? Had they, it be supported today. Why should anyone wait? I'm speaking for myself. So again: If I would start building cameras today , I would opt for DNG, because this would give me a competitive advantage. If I were Canon or Nikon, I would stay with my format, because I have the resources to push that. If I would buy a camera today, I would look if LR supports it and if my glasses are still supported. So LR support and mount support gives that camera a competitive advantage. ... View more

99jon wrote: Canon DPP is not a great workflow. If it were, we would not be here discussion on things we can't change... ... View more

Write to Canon, Nikon, Sony that you will create the DNG-now movement that will boycott cameras not supporting DNG. If you are several hundred thousends of users, they will bend. ... View more

thedigitaldog wrote: The problem is DPP sucks! Don't use it! Don't even buy the camera. If that is the argument, don't even consider buying the camera. The only time I was pissed of was when Nikon protected their format by encryption and used the DCMA to lock out third party developers. For the rest: It's business logic. The camera maker optimizes their RAW format to their cameras and their needs. And I'm sure, that Canon has an interest to get Adobe supporting their cameras, as LR and PS have a unique market share with professional photographers. ... View more

Mainstream=those who sell a lot of cameras. Underdogs=those who sell not a lot of cameras (Leica for example) Nobody is hold hostage. You can buy a camera or you can wait until the support is there. And to recall some facts: Proprietary RAW files like Canon's and Nikon's where there before DNG. You want DNG support by your camera: Buy only a camera with DNG support! Belive me: Canon wants support for his cameras by the leaders of the RAW developping software editors. ... View more

No, my position is that camera manufacturers using DNG are not the mainstream manufacturers like Canon, Nikon, Sony! That's it. ... View more

The new format will also be implemented in Canons flagship camera. The 5D and the 1D cover a great deal of the pros in the business. That would be an image loss for Adobe to loose those customers (besides the money that they bring). ... View more

As long as consumers by cameras with proprietary RAW files... Let's face it: DNG is used by the underdogs, who do not have the resources to make their own software to develop the files. ... View more

I loved DPP before getting to Bridge/ACR and then LR. There must be a reason why I pay for something, I could get for free... (Well Bridge/ACR was for free considering that I used Photoshop anyhow). ... View more

Let's see what DPP does with the second subframe... . ... View more

The free DNG converter is a nice thing and for sure helps a lot. But it converts, and that means alters the data. And it is difficult to find out what info. I used the DNG converter for a while for some of our cameras before switching to CC which obviously solves the problem quite elegantly. (And to get it right: I am quite a fan of the subscription model, because it helps us to effectively save money, and I'm using the Photographer's plan for my own projects at home) I was thinking a lot on how to handle the RAW/DNG issue, and I decided that we will ditch the proprietary RAW file format during that period, just to avoid double storage issues. Storage is a cost factor in the corporate server world! But I know by experience, that the changes between generations of the same base model are not that big. They concern mostly resolution and some internal tweaking. I was able to read raw files of just released new cameras using open software. And the specific camera was not yet on the supported camera list. It's a similar situation like saying Adobe Photoshop CS5 is not supported on Windows 10. It may not be supported, but it runs. It's the user taking the risk and testing. For some users, that's OK. Adobe's approach is to block new cameras until they have done the necessary due diligence in adapting and testing their software. I understand that approach, but on the other hand it would be nice to let the user decide... Now for the camera manufacturer I would not like them to stop progress. If they develop a new method to represent the data, like on the 5dMIV, I think they should be welcome to do that. I can decide to buy that camera or not based on my personal needs. If Adobe does not yeat support the new feature, I need to decide if that feature is that important for me. In conclusion: there are no bad guys here! ... View more

The link confirms what I thought. The raw file formats are not that different from each camera. Even the dual pixel raw file format is an "easy" go. The only problem with this are all the new opportunities you get and how they get supported by a program like LR. ... View more

Standard Adobe reply. They will support the camera soon. I'm sceptical however to find the dual pixel support soon in Adobe products. ... View more

thedigitaldog wrote: John Waller wrote: A software update (Camera Raw, DNG converter and Lightroom) is required for every new camera model that comes onto the market. Such a shame, waste of time and unnecessary. If only the camera manufacturers didn't insist on making tiny changes to each new camera's raw format But this gives Adobe a nice excuse to sell new software respectively to sell their subscription model. Raw formats do not change that radically from camera model to camera model. And most of the changes are not considered by LR. DUalpixel however is a huge change and that one will ask a lot of effort for LR. I do not expect this to get support that soon. ... View more

thedigitaldog wrote: ONLY when it's updated to understand the new proprietary raw. And by that time, the work by Adobe has been done, LR/ACR will have 'native' support soon after. As I understood, you will be able to shoot in 2 RAW formats: Classic and Dual Pixel. Classic should be an easy task, but the dual pixel raw format will be hard, as there are a lot more information, that need to get connected and were not used as this on other cameras. ... View more

The problem is, that you are not working at the full image resolution. You cannot appreciate the sharpening to its correct value. ... View more