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Harbs, thanks for helping to clarify this matter. Although I must say your reposting reminded me of why I prefer using a browser, much as I respect the right of others to navigate these forums any way they like.
Now I know for certain that the "Some spammer or so" was always there, and I cannot understand how I missed it, for I am usually a careful reader. In any case, it's not all that important for the main point in my deleted message: a few words saying that a message has been deleted or moved don't cost that much, and would help very much in improving the rarefied atmosphere we have in here. And I am not asking for anything unheard of; here is an example of what one finds every now and then in the list of topics of other forums I frequent:
Locked and transferred threads are also notified in similar ways, leading to much less time wasted for the users, and improved relationships with the moderators.
Claudio González wrote:
Harbs, thanks for helping to clarify this matter. Although I must say your reposting reminded me of why I prefer using a browser, much as I respect the right of others to navigate these forums any way they like.
Glad to help! 
Just for the record: It's a lot more readable in email. The quotes appear as quotes in the email, etc. Although images and emoticons etc. are missing, so sometimes some of the intent gets lost in the translation.
The formatting got kind of messed up when I copied and pasted. I also obviously cut out the header and footer text...
Hi there
I'm looking at the thread where Jochem participated and I don't see any rudenss or bad behavior.
Geez, everyone was all upset because threads were being moved before. Now you get upset if he doesn't move the thread and behaves exactly as so many here have done. By simply advising where they should be posting in order to get help. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't that what was proposed as "good moderation" earlier?
Methinks the issue isn't so much that Jochem is misbehaving as it is that you simply have a dislike for him. Or possibly just for those bearing a moderator status in general.
The OP wasn't a potential customer, Adobe made the sale. The OP was looking for where to download their purchase. 
Cheers... Rick
Hi there
I might respectfully suggest then that if a problem is perceived, perhaps it would be helpful to state what would seem to be more appropriate.
The forums are a worldwide melting pot. Sometimes things may be said that the person saying them never in a million years meant as offensive, but are received that way because of a cultural difference.
So perhaps someone might toss out an example of "what you said here is bad" and "this would be better" so that all involved might absorb it and learn from it?
Just thinking out loud... Rick
I agree! (and hopefully that is indeed what Ann was referring to)
And for Jochem, try possibly saying:
"Hi (insert Adobe Username here),
You have posted your message to the "Forum comments" forum. The Forum comments forum is intended for making comments on the functioning of forums themselves.
Your issue is probably best discussed/resolved in the "Adobe.com feedback" forum:http://forums.adobe.com/community/general/adobedotcom_feedback Which is where users can share their experience with Adobe Customer Service"
Just adding the person's name at the beginning make it sound more personal and not like a generic recording.
I'd have to agree with Curt on this. The two product fora where I participate remain unchanged. Not a single user stomped out in disgust because the shape of the sandbox changed. My experience mirrors Curt's.
Ann, the "Community Expert" moniker was something created by Adobe, not Macromedia. Under Macromedia the program was known as Team MacroMedia (TMM).
Wow, I never realized how powerful I personally was! According to Ann I managed to "stampede" all over every Adobe support fora and totally destroy it!
Generally all the other Community Experts I've ever dealt with earned said status after offering post after helpful post with accurate and cheerful answers. Hmmm, helpful, cheerful and knowledgeable. I'm not sure how that manages to equate to destroying a forum or culture. Unless, of course, based on the disposition I've seen of Ann's posts here that culture was one based on animosity and the forums got friendlier as a result. Thinking about how that Ramon guy behaved, that comment may not be far off the mark! Did he ever have a good day?
Cheers all... Rick
Ann Shelbourne wrote:
The "Community Expert" title was created as a sop to the former Macromedia TMMs after the take-over. We never had to endure this inane posturing in the Adobe Forums prior to that.
LOL, inane posturing? I suppose you also call it "inane posturing" and "elitism" because Adobe employees are often recognized with the Adobe logo in their profile? Only on one occasion have I witnessed posturing and/or bad behavior by a fellow Community Expert. To my knowledge, that person is no longer part of the program.
Ann Shelbourne wrote:
The whole idea is deplorable.
It is false "Elitism" without merit; is divisive and is belittling to other members who have far more experience and knowledge than do any of you and your colleagues. It is a major reason why so many of us are no longer willing to contribute to the Products Forums.
That you seem to think the Community Expert program is "false "Elitism without merit" infers that you are able to discern from seeing a single title that any and all who are members of the program have no experience or anything of any value to offer and the status is simply awarded to anyone that wishes to apply. What seems deplorable to me is how quickly, critically and harshly you seem to judge others based on a simple title.
The topic of this thread is dealing with a general request that Jochem be removed as a moderator. The general belief by some here seems to be that he is too heavy handed and may be driving customers away as a result. You are bemoaning the perceived loss of knowledgeable contributors. One in particular known as Ramon.
I have to say that what little I saw of Mr. Ramon's behavior was totally shocking and appalling. Perhaps he had a vast array of knowledge. The problem is, people with his abrasive and belittling attitude will do more to drive away folks than a moderator ever will. If anyone exhibits the characteristics of "elitism" it's those with attitudes such as his. The surprising part to me is how high a tolerance Adobe seems to demonstrate for those that exhibit his characteristics. However, I could be misjudging on my part. I'm only judging from a few posts I have seen as well as one personal encounter here in this forum. Perhaps he was a sweetheart that went sour after many years of polite and helpful answers. And if that's the case, wasn't it really time for him to leave?
Personally, I think Jochem is doing a fine job here. As "heavy handed" as some are making him out to be, he does appear to be listening and modifying his behavior with respect to misplaced threads. Personally, I disagree with the whole issue of thread moving and don't see any real issue with it, but he seems to have now adopted the behavior many were complaining about. But when he did, he was called down for not seeming polite enough. Seems to me the guy is in a no-win situation here.
Sincerely... Rick 
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