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EOS R : washed out with Adobe Color

Forum|Forum|1 year ago
May 16, 2024
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Hi everyone.

Could someone of good will kindly download the following raw:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bTV3h3ERbHYT_8jqTd0LlvTPG4EYaphM/view?usp=drivesdk

and post here three screenshots of how any viewing program displays it (MS Photo or Fast Raw Viewer or similar) and how LrC displays it in the development module using both the Adobe Color and Adobe Portrait profiles?

I won't tell you anything else because I would like you to judge the result for yourself (not the composition, the technique, the light, it's a photo taken on the fly...).

Thanks 😁

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johnrellis

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I extracted the JPEG preview from the raw file using Exiftool, which indicates in the Makernotes that the camera was set to Picture Style: Neutral. (The JPEG preview is what image-viewing apps will display unless they contain a raw converter.)

Below I've shown screenshots from LR 13.2 / Mac OS Develop with various camera profiles selected, each result followed by the JPEG preview (using Mac Preview) for comparison. Make your browser window wide to see each pair side-by-side.

The results seem within the normal range to me. As expected, LR's Camera Neutral v2 does a good job of closely approximating the camera's preview, which the camera recorded with Picture Style: Neutral.

Camera Neutral v2:

Camera Portrait v2:

Adobe Color:

Camera Standard v2:

Adobe Portrait:

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Giovanni StotoAuthor

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Thanks a lot @johnrellis
Probably, since I cull images using fast raw viewer that display raw using a very linear profile, being used to choosing images looking at a very flat/dull preview I cannot psicologically stand LrC interpretation with whatever profile 🙂 So I thought there was was either something wrong in my LrC or in my image...

D Fosse

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Either way, this is a high contrast scene with an overexposed background and an underexposed foreground. A very flat rendering would probably pull both in, but for any presentation purposes this needs highlight and shadow recovery and some local adjustments.

Ricky336

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Hello,

Isn't the whole idea of using raw, is to 'develop' the photo using LrC? You get the style you want!

Otherwise, if you want the JPG preview look, then simply use JPG capture without going through a separate programme.

Another thing is perception. Everyone 'sees' colour differently, and then it can depend on the monitor, etc...

D Fosse

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Image viewers do not interpret or even touch the raw data. They just show the jpeg preview that the camera embedded in the raw file.

In other words, they will not match and are not supposed to match.

Camera manufacturers obviously crank up saturation and contrast. That sells cameras.

LrC / ACR default settings are conservative, intended to preserve data. The rest is up to you, the sliders are there to be used.

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Giovanni StotoAuthor

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Yes... But... When importing this raw in LrC using Adobe Color as profile, I get a very bad result.

D Fosse

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Define bad.

Or better yet, show screenshots.

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