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exclude an layer from the adjustment layer

Explorer ,
Jan 08, 2014 Jan 08, 2014

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Hi ,

i don't know why adobe still didn't add this option to after effects !!!!!!!!

we have alot of problems with this

i can't just keep pre-comping stuff !!!!!

adding a simple column between the 'track mat' and the 'parent' to exclude the selected layer from an adjustment layer in top of it will simple thing's Up .

please consider this option

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Nov 07, 2014 Nov 07, 2014

If for some reason you don't want to precompose, you can use property links to quickly apply the same set of effects or other properties  to a group of layers.

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Jan 08, 2014 Jan 08, 2014

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An adjustment layer applies to the composited result of all of the layers beneath it. To implement what you are suggesting would require a complete rearchitecture of how After Effects works.

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Explorer ,
Jan 08, 2014 Jan 08, 2014

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if it require a complete rearchitecture than do it ! i don't know how many years it takes but it deserve !

i mean seriously we are dying here , or at least adobe should find a solution to this Huge Problem .

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LEGEND ,
Jan 08, 2014 Jan 08, 2014

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...so in other words, get used to making precomps or start moving to a different compositing application.  There are several.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 08, 2014 Jan 08, 2014

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To exclude a layer from an adjustment layer you have to re-order the rendering pipeline. In a node editor you add a node, In AE you Pre-compose. Pre-composing is a tool you should use not avoid. There's nothing wrong with it. It does not effect quality. It's all about layers and render order. In 20 years using AE I've never 'been dying here' because of a pre-comp. It's all about planning your work and understanding the render pipeline.

There are changes planned in the visual display of pre-comps in the timeline but the same thing will still hold true, if you want to change the rendering order you have to change the position of the layer in the render stack. Nodes or pre-comps are a way to get that done.

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Explorer ,
Jan 08, 2014 Jan 08, 2014

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well in my latest project , where there is more than 4000 files ,

u can't just keep precomping stuff more than what it is

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i guess the solution is moving to a software use Nodegraph .

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Jul 20, 2019 Jul 20, 2019

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This is why After Effects is massively amateurish compared with literally ANY node-based software. Absolute rubbish.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 29, 2023 Jun 29, 2023

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😂

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New Here ,
Sep 18, 2023 Sep 18, 2023

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After Effects in my opion is a great compositing tool. However, when things become serious complicated I agree that a node based solution works better. Nuke or DaVinci are both great options. I prefer DaVinci Resolve, mainly because of it's price difference compared to Nuke. Both programs deliver basicly the exact same results, but the price difference between Nuke and DaVinci is absurd. $ 8.000,- (per year) for Nuke vs DaVinci Resolve Studio at only

$ 295,- (lifetime, including updates). But as mentioned before in this topic, working in After Effects with layers and pre-comps is not big of a problem. At least not in terms of quality. Never the less, I agree that the workflow with many layers and pre-comps is not preferable. When things get tough a node based solution is deffenitly better. 

Still, I love After Effects. Also because of the tremendous amount of presets, plugins etc. that are on the market. 

So in the end, I use both Adobe and DaVinci Resolve, just depending on what I'm working on. Maybe, and hopefully some day Adobe will add a node based solution to AFX. 

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New Here ,
Feb 02, 2024 Feb 02, 2024

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I love your accent 🥹

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Explorer ,
Jan 08, 2014 Jan 08, 2014

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thank you very much everybody , but moving to another software isn't one of my properties

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Community Expert ,
Jan 08, 2014 Jan 08, 2014

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Collected files is no indication of project size, a single image sequence could have 4,000 files. AE is a very poor movie editor but it's great for creating shots. If you are building whole sequences with many shots in a single AE comp then you are not using the software in the way it was designed. I have many projects where there are 200 or more layers in a 10 second shot. I render the shot and then edit the sequence in a NLE... That's how it was designed.

If you jump to another program with the same or greater compositing and motion graphics capabilities you're going to run into the same problem if you try and put an entire movie in a compositing program.

Just a friendly workflow suggestion.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 08, 2014 Jan 08, 2014

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Agree with the others. this "exclude layer from adjustment layer" request usually means that peopel are using AE in the wrong way and not structuring their projects accordingly...

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Explorer ,
Jan 09, 2014 Jan 09, 2014

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you'll see , after few years adobe will solve this problem

i'm totally Sure !

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Explorer ,
Dec 18, 2019 Dec 18, 2019

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almost 6 years later is not a few years I'm afraid...

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New Here ,
Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Can confirm, greeting from 2021

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 05, 2022 Sep 05, 2022

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Hello from 2022 (8 years later, lol) - I tried all the suggestions on this thread, and still, it's not resolved. I'm using the "CC Radial Fast Blur" effect in the adjustment layer. Underneath it is multiple layers, which I have white text on one layer and flashing lights on another. I only want the flashing lights layer to cast light rays (on the layers above it) instead of all the layers underneath the adjustment layer.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 29, 2023 Jun 29, 2023

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Yeah uhh its 2023

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 27, 2023 Dec 27, 2023

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It's 2024 in 2 days, and the issue is still ignored.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 15, 2024 Feb 15, 2024

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it's now 2024, nothing has been done about it 🙂

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 16, 2024 Apr 16, 2024

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april 2024 and nothing has changed

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Explorer ,
Jun 27, 2024 Jun 27, 2024

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LATEST

Still 2024. Did you guys all hit the upvote button? 🙂 

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New Here ,
May 20, 2014 May 20, 2014

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Hey guys.

I was stuck with the same problem, so I found a way to solve it with minimal changes.

I have a silly 2d animation representing days and nights passing by. To improve the sensation, I put an adjustment layer to tint all layers below every time the moon rises. But the adjustment layers also tints the sun and moon and with my current structure, full of overlaps, it will be a pain to reorder and mask all layers. So I simply duplicate the layer that I was working on and rename it to "MEGA LUMA MASK" and put them just above the adjustment layer. Inside this new duplicated layer, I tint all layers to total black, except for the moons and suns, which I tint to total white. What I got was a perfect luma mask that respects all overlaps without needing to touch the structure. Finally I just set the track matte of the adjustment layers to Luma Inverted!

No pre composes (kinda), no crazy masks. Of course an adjustment layer exception system would be better, but it's a clean, fast and versatile solution.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 07, 2014 Nov 07, 2014

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Some people defend their position,in this case Adobe, as if it was politics or their football club. The truth is, the adjustment layer needs to be re designed. If you have 50 layers and you want to apply a stack of effects on layers 40-47 let's say. and keep the rest unaffected,  the only workaround is pre-compose. Sometimes you can't precompose or you don't want to precompose. Basic feature. Much missed.

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If for some reason you don't want to precompose, you can use property links to quickly apply the same set of effects or other properties  to a group of layers.

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