Puppet effect leaving strange, "phantom" outline

New Here ,
Jan 11, 2018 Jan 11, 2018

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Computer: iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017) with OS Sierra

Graphics Radeon Pro 580 8192 MB

RAM: 8 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

Processor: 3.8 GHz Intel Core i5

I have been character animating in the most recent version of After Effects. I assigned multiple layers to a parent layer. I added 3 pins to child layer shape. Before animating the pins, I repositioned the parent layer and its contents out of frame so it could slide in and set my key frames accordingly. When I played back my animation, an outline of the shape I had pinned appeared in front of that layer, not on any of the other layers in front or behind. The outline did not follow the shape – it was fixed in place and was only visible when the shape moved behind it, causing it to stand out from the background. This "phantom" outline is in the same position the shape was in when I originally placed the pins. I erased my animations and moved the parent layer out of frame to its intended starting position, but I could only apply the Puppet effect to the shape, I couldn’t actually place any pins. This problem is visible even when I pre-rendered my composition.

This problem occurred earlier today and I was able to fix it by deleting the entire layer from the AE project and reimporting a new one. I tried it again this time, but it didn’t work. I have restarted the program and the computer, but I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling.

Any ideas? What am I missing here?

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LEGEND ,
Jan 11, 2018 Jan 11, 2018

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Try purging all memory and caches.

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Jan 11, 2018 Jan 11, 2018

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Gave a shot - no cigar For visual reference:
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Gave it*

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 11, 2018 Jan 11, 2018

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If the edges of the puppet are tearing (or creating a phantom outline), locate the Expansion property for Mesh attribute and increase the value.

It's probably set to 3.0.  Try 4.0.

-Warren

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New Here ,
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Sorry Warren, spoke to soon. As soon as I started adjusting pins from their original positions, it started happening again. I'm going to trying uninstalling and reinstalling

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It's usually the Mesh Expansion.

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Nov 01, 2021 Nov 01, 2021

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this worked, I had to use a bigger expansion than 4.0 but it ended up working. Thanks so much!

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Aug 03, 2022 Aug 03, 2022

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Thank You it worked 

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Jan 12, 2018 Jan 12, 2018

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Try transparency on. You shouldn't need to do anything else. If you have resized the image (after applying the effect and pins) that would cause problems.

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New Here ,
Jan 16, 2018 Jan 16, 2018

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Thanks for the ideas, all.

Unfortunately, nothing has seemed to work. I uninstalled and reinstalled the program. I opened up the file again, played through all of the animations and they were fine. Then I saved the file - nothing else - and suddenly animations I was not having trouble with were no longer working. I think the problem might be a little bigger.

I appreciate your time!

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Adobe Employee ,
Jan 22, 2018 Jan 22, 2018

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Still having trouble InfoL? Let us know.

Thanks,

Kevin

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New Here ,
May 04, 2020 May 04, 2020

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i have this issue. I've tried expanding the mesh but it distorts the pins 

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New Here ,
Dec 09, 2020 Dec 09, 2020

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Okay so I'm having the same problem but what I did was:

I had the character in one composition before I started to use the puppet pin tool on it, so basically I just added that composition on top of the layer that showed the outline. I then used shift command d to split the layer so the puppet pin tool wouldn't affect any of my previous work with the outline. I realize this isn't a perfect solution by any means, but it made the time leading up to the puppet pin tool pretty seamless. If the character moves position or rotation before using the puppet pin tool, it should be rather easy to copy all of those keyframes. Hope this helps!

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Apr 15, 2022 Apr 15, 2022

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I ran into the exact same problem, and found the solution: 

Answer:

Untick "For Compositions: Collapse transformations; For Vector Layer: Continuously Rasterize"

 

How I found the answer:

When I was thinking about how I ran into the issue, I remembered that I had ticked "For Compositions: Collapse transformations; For Vector Layer: Continuously Rasterize" (This can be found next to the layer name).

I had previously ticked this option since I had imported my layers from Adobe Illustrator

When I unticked this option, the "phantom outline" no longer showed and the issue was resolved.

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