Premiere adds a few stop frames in time line during import

[Yura Timoshenko]

I have all latest updates and paid subscription to Creative Cloud. Today I had the weirdes error that threatned commercail brodcast. For years I am repeating the same routine in preparing videos for TV broadcast, sometimes slight glitches, but nothing big. But today it was some evil spirits interfering or something with bugs maybe) 

Basically In project timeline whenever I import footage, it addes 3 stop frames in 3 spots. I clicked every frame and found where it made thise stop frames, just like a dublicate of a frame before or after. One frame is repeated in 3 places, quite randomly it seems. I tried to convert footage to different format, checked sequence timeframe setup and what not, regardless of any tweaks or changes, it continued to add stose stop srames exactly in those 3 locations. TV channel technicians see it and do not accept file for broadcast. Really freaked me out. Eventually I just reassembled project in after effects and rendered it fine without stop frames. I tried to google and never saw anything like it among people in the industry... Looks like a bug to me. I tried to reboot, restart etc, to no avail so far. Any clues what can it be and how to cure it? Thanks in advance!!!

My setup is Imac Retina 5k, 64 RAM, Adobe Premiere Pro 2025

 

[Ann Bens]

Variable framerate could be a reason for still frames.

If the footage is variable framerate convert to constant framerate with Handbrake or Shutter Encoder before bringing into Premiere.

Does your sequence settings match the footage?

Post screenshot of media in MediaInfo in treeview.

[Yura Timoshenko]

25 FPS in Sequence settings and in imported footage. So why would it try to mess with frame rate right on import I wornder? Literally, I drag footage on time line, click frames and it instantly adds those stop frames, evil demons

[Ann Bens]

Please post mediainfo screenshot.

[R Neil Haugen]

If Ann's thought is correct, and this is VFR, variable frame rate ... the media simply does not have actually 25 frames per second throughout.

It could be varying between say 19.84 to 26.23 actual FPS. And checking in MediaInfo will show both whether it is VFR or CFR (constant FR) ... and if VFR, what the min/max FPS is through the file.

[Dani_V.]

Hi @Yura Timoshenko,

Thanks for submitting your bug report. We need a few more details to help. Just confirming you are not seeing it in the original file but only within the timeline itself? Have you noticed this with any other footage or just this specific clip?

As @Ann Bens mentioned, it would be very helpful to know more information about the file and its source. If you right-click on the clip in the Project panel > Media File Properties, we can get more information about it as well, in addition to MediaInfo. Could you share a screenshot of this and your sequence settings? Or if you'd like you could share the file and we can take a look. You also mentioned this did not happen upon import in After Effects? What were the sequence settings there?

Sorry for the frustration,
Dani

[MyerPj]

Be sure to give the extra detail others have asked for, here's the type of info we need:

Info needed for a bug / tech support

[Yura Timoshenko]

Here I have recorded how I insert video - first I show frames without stop frame - then after I insert it in time line - I click a few frames from the end of the sequence and you see that stop frame was added. And I show mediainfo data too.

[Yura Timoshenko]

so here is the good footage MediaInfo data screen and then secons screen of a final rendered file. But the problem begins as soon as a drag good footage in time line, I can see it right away visually, when I click frames, I see the stop frames added instantly in time line

[Yura Timoshenko]

So I tried to create a new sequence with standart setup - 120x1080 25 fps, import another version of the same footage and again it adds those stop frames)))) one can become superstitious very easily under circumstances. Although if I use After Effects repeating the same steps, importing the same footage, no frame stop issue at all, as it was before all these years))) Surely I can just use AE instead of Pr to prepare projects, but still I do not want to leave this issue unresolved )))

[Ann Bens]

Still missing screenshot sequence settings.

[Yura Timoshenko]

they are always the same, pretty standart. 

[Yura Timoshenko]

and here is a MediaInfo data for good video source that I insert in time line before it adds stop frames

[Dani_V.]

Thank you for the additional information @Yura Timoshenko . What are your delivery specs meant to be? It looks like you may be working with interlaced footage. Do you have a screenshot of your After Effects sequence settings?

[Ann Bens]

You are using interlaced footage in a progressive sequence.

Might want to turn off max render and depth and composting in linear color.

[Yura Timoshenko]

tried to turn off all tree, imported footage and it adds stop frames still( instantly on import...

[Yura Timoshenko]

Problems I am having are with Premiere, similar setup in After Effects does not add stop frames on import... Like when I am importing footage in sequence. Here is a screenshot of my udated sequence settings, where I turned off depth, quality and linear color, to no avail(

[Yura Timoshenko]

I have a feeling that it somehow instantly upon import reinterprets the footage and changes frame rate, or bitrate, or something intangible, although both the sequence and footage have the same frame rate- 25 fps. And it only affect part of the footage at the end for some reason. If someone put a curse on this partular part of the sequnce, I am cool with that explanation))

[Rach McIntire]

Ji @Yura Timoshenko,
Although it may, in fact, be a sequence curse as that is an often overlooked bug creator, in case it is not; 
If matching the interlace settings didn't help, could you share one of the problem clips for us to test with?