P: Unable to select text or add new text with Type Tool

[Enthusiastic_Eclipse0D44]

Unable to select or edit the existing text using the Type Tool. The selection gets instantly reverted. This also happens while adding new texts. Restarting the app is the only workaround. Here's a screen recording of the issue:

Premiere Pro Version: 24.2.1 (Build 2)

OS: Win 11 Home

Laptop: Asus Vivobook Pro 15

Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 5600H

Graphics Card: Nvidia RTX 3050

[BrianDavison]

Dynamite, thanks @lslater!  I have a workaround now that uses a macro to first 'deselect all' and then 'select find box' but obviously it'd be nice to not have that.

(As a side note, it would be great if the 'select find box' shortcut worked in the Production & Transcription panels as well. (or really, any panel where a find box is present.) It currently works in the project panel, Media Browser and  Markers panels. Maybe some more, I suppose, I haven't made an exhaustive search of it.

[morphinapg]

In regards to my subtitle bug, I think I may have discovered something that may help the developers investigate the issue. I found that sometimes before I select the default "New Caption" text, sometimes the cursor is an arrow, and sometimes it's the text selection cursor. I've found that the bug often happens when the cursor was the text selection cursor before I double (or sometimes triple) clicked to select the text before typing.

It isn't always the playback shortcut that's being triggered, although playback often does happen once I hit the space key. The problem is it appears to lose focus on the text selection after typically just one or two letters have been entered. It doesn't seem to matter what letters I started to enter, or what letters I press next, just that it loses focus, so any further letters that are tied to keyboard shortcuts will begin activating.

I've started paying closer attention to what mouse cursor I have before selecting my text. If I see it's the text selection cursor, then I will click elsewhere to deselect the caption, which reverts it to the standard arrow, and then I will select all text. Doing this has seemingly avoided this bug consistently over the past few days, so I think it's something worth looking into.

For reference, I am currently on 24.5.0, and Windows 11

EDIT: It may also be useful information to note that the video track is locked, in order to avoid accidentally selecting it when trying to select the caption.

[Bart5FF1]

This problem still persists. When I edit text in the screen and press 'space' for instance, it starts playing the video. I'm on version 24.6.1. (Build 2). How do I fix this?

[Annika Koenig]

@Bart5FF1 Can you share as much info as possible, please? We have been struggling to get an internal repro but are very much interested in fixing this. 

- Does this always happen or only intermittently?

- Mac or Windows?

- Can you make a video of this issue?

-anything else you can think of? 

[Thomas30312860ttmr]

I am having the same issue. Here's a recording: https://zoom.us/clips/share/3qkti7hc7DH_nZ6x20H8umLbc2OL-kDHnkD7HiSC3dfu79PROxUICDB-gm0drJbXWMQm2LDk...

[Stan Jones]

@Thomas30312860ttmr,

Thanks for the screen recording. You are running 24.5.0?

Are you running your project in OneDrive? Do you get the same issue if running from your local drive?

Windows?

Stan

[Nico2468]

Is there any solution to this bug yet? This is crippling my workflow.

I'm on the latest version (24.6.1) and it is impossible to use the text tool. 

[Thomas30312860ttmr]

@Stan Jones  I am running 24.6.1

My project is saved on my desktop. Running Windows 10.

[Ann Bens]

Save your project in a dedicate folder, not on the desktop.

[Annika Koenig]

Thank you so much, @Thomas30312860ttmr! Your video solved the mystery. It's the Reference Monitor causing this. Since this panel is going away with the next release, it will take this bug with it. In the meantime, close it when working with graphics.

In case you are curious, here the Beta Post about the Reference Monitor deprecation: https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta-discussions/now-in-beta-deprecation-of-the-in-app-r...

[Stan Jones]

@Thomas30312860ttmr, now there's some payoff for your effort! Thank you again for the recording.

@Annika Koenig.

That is a relief to know there was something to fix!  Congrats to the team. And yes, I can replicate in 24.6.1 with the Reference Monitor in the same panel as the Program Monitor - it was a little inconsistent, and I did not test very thoroughly.

And there is no Reference Monitor in Beta (I'm only looking at 25.1.0.18.) So no problem there.

Stan

[morphinapg]

Other examples that have had this problem don't show the reference monitor being open, like my video while subtitling I posted earlier:

[Stan Jones]

@morphinapg,

Thanks for the reminder that your situation was different. And in part because it appeared intermittent. Also it deals with subtitles. And you are working with a locked video track.

I tested 24.6.1 further with the Reference monitor open. If I attempt to edit text with the Selection tool active, I get the problem. If I switch to the Text tool first, I do not.

If I try this with subtitles, I have no problem, perhaps because selecting a subtitle changes to the Text tool before typing the edit? I did not try locking the Video track.

@Annika Koenig Could there be another condition other than Reference monitor?

morphinapg's original post is here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/p-unable-to-select-text-or-add-new-text-with-type-t...

His post here suggests the opposite to my observation that the selection tool is the problem rather than Text tool:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/p-unable-to-select-text-or-add-new-text-with-type-t...

Stan

[Annika Koenig]

I'd be curious to hear if @Nico2468 and others who have reported seeing this in 24.6.1 are still experiencing the issue (with a closed Reference Monitor). And if possible, if they could post a recent screen recording. We'll have to take this case by case, I suppose.

[Nico2468]

I was able to fix this issue by resetting preferences. 

[jamieclarke]

Updating Status to Fixed in 24.3

[ramsey_7103]

Thank you!

[morphinapg]

I can confirm that my version of this issue related to subtitles is still not fixed as of 25.0.0

[AnnikaKoenig]

@morphinapg It would be good if we could start a new thread with your issue and look at it closer without it getting in the weeds with everything in this thread.

[morphinapg]

@AnnikaKoenig
It was originally a separate thread. Someone merged my post with this thread.

I do think the issue is related now after reading through this thread, but yes there are some specifics that may only pop up for subtitling vs other type tool uses.

[AnnikaKoenig]

Got it. Reason is that we had fixed a bunch of stuff since this thread started, so it's better to start new with the current status quo.