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Adding a Rec 709-A Setting to After Effects

Community Beginner ,
Feb 20, 2023 Feb 20, 2023

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Hello. Please, is it possible to add a setting with a checkmark REC709-A to After Effects, by analogy as implemented by DaVinci Resolve for MacOs? So that the color is the same in After Effects and MacOS environment. I work with ProRes 422, 422HQ. And the color difference after rendering is driving me crazy! I really hope this problem can be solved.

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LEGEND ,
Feb 20, 2023 Feb 20, 2023

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Are you using actual color management on your system? None of this matters if you don't and that's likely your misunderstanding here.

 

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Feb 21, 2023 Feb 21, 2023

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Could you elaborate on what you meant?
I have m1pro. I've tried two options, workarounds:

1. Apple XDR Display monitor profile. In After Effects, the setting is project settings - color - working Color space - HD709-A. And the interpretation of each video file is Preserve RGB or HD709-A profile setting. I end up with the same color in the output file and macOS, QuickTime, iphone, safari and etc environment. But if I use this method, I run into various difficulties. For example, if I use the content aware fill tool, the patches are created in some other gamut even though they are also interpreted in HD709-A. Also, when closing and opening an AE project, the installation of file interpretation constantly flies, and you have to interpret all the files again ... (

 

2. Set monitor profile to factory calibrated sRGB or Rec709. In After Effects, working Color space is None. If you use this method, then the situation becomes better, there are no difficulties in the workflow. But the output color, although similar, is different from what I see in AE, QT, VLC. And in VLC and QT it is very similar.

And in DavinciResolve there is a Rec709-A checkbox, and thanks to it, I lose my difficulties. The output is what I saw when editing frames.

 

I would be glad if there is already a solution, they will tell me how to organize a simple workflow.

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LEGEND ,
Feb 21, 2023 Feb 21, 2023

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Managing color in After Effects

 

Understand Photoshop color management

 

You are not using any actual CM if your monitor isn't properly calibrated and proof preview used. Then all the arbitrary profile switching doesn't mean much. The CAF thing is a bug as far as I know.

 

Mylenium

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 21, 2023 Feb 21, 2023

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I'm sorry, but I didn't understand you. Or I misunderstand. The latest apple laptops (m1pro 14, 16 and above) have factory, hardware calibration srgb, rec709. It does not end only with the appointment of a profile, it is tied to the hardware and software of the monitor. For example, after assigning profiles, the ability to change the brightness of the monitor disappears. In reviews and tests, it is said that the factory calibration of the modes is true. Of course, you can once again independently calibrate with a spectrophotometer, but this will give a minimum percentage of compliance with the standard. (again, if the calibration apparatus itself is calibrated).

 

I make content for the web, my room is not in ideal conditions for working with color. I know that in the end, my content will be viewed on a different device and it will be different from what I saw. But the fact that in my system the input file and the output file are distinguishable by color is terribly annoying. And I'm looking for a solution to this situation. It's just that Davinci Resolve has a simple way to solve this problem.

 

Please forgive me if I misunderstood you.

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New Here ,
Aug 01, 2023 Aug 01, 2023

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Hello, I'm looking for the same solution!
Having the Rec709-A in AE could solve many of my problems!

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New Here ,
Aug 15, 2023 Aug 15, 2023

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This is a useless reply. The individual is asking for a gamma tag option in order to allow quick time to properly display rec709 information. Resolve has found a way to properly tag quick time exports to display correctly on Mac displays. Adobe should also follow suit. 

 

If you understood adobes color management system you would realize it automatically displays at rec709 2.4 and only the beta allows the option of now managing display options in a meaningful way. With all that said,  Media encoder still fails to properly tag all exports that are QuickTime or h264. 

 

Thanks for playing 

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