Premiere Pro 2023 slow and sluggish compared to 2021

[Adam Speedy]

Actions are so slow on Premiere Pro 2023.

Hitting space to play the timeline can take around 2 seconds for the video to start playing. Trying to change any values under Effect Controls is also much slower.

Ironically, when I made proxies (Cineform Low Quality), the performance got even worse.

I have tried:

• Clearing media cache
• Using the latest Beta version (slightly better, still bad compared to 2021)
• Disabling & Enabling CUDA
• Turning playback quality to 'high'
• Different proxy types
• Removing & reattaching the proxies
• Scouring the forums and the web in search for answers

Sadly nothing has helped yet.

Like few others, I have also noticed it not using the GPU as much as it is using the CPU.

My computer specs:

• Nvidia GeForce 2080
• 128GB DDR4 RAM @ 3400mhz
• intel i9-9900k CPU

The fact that Adobe is also removing older versions from the Creative Cloud means that I cannot use PPro 2021, as Media Encoder no longer works with it as it was removed. It claims it's uninstalled.

This is very frustrating and I am very close to cancelling my subscription.

[Robbinsfineart]

3.8 Ghz quad-core intel core i5

Radeon Pro 580 8GB

8 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

[Jorge Jaramillo Hdz]

I was about to make a post but decided to look up if somebody else is with the same problem.

It's like everything is taking more time. Deleting/moving a clip/layer take about 2 seconds to respond. I've been checking my GPU/CPU/RAM usage and its very low, but the UI is very laggy for no reason at all. 

Right now I'm working in a very light project but all the interface is laggy, specially if you want to move a clip or make a change in lumetri for example.

[david28068647yf50]

So...let me get this straight....
No issues with "the drivers" on my machine for really years now.....

But now Adobe wants me to start randomly trying new drivers because the latest version of their software is broken?
I should potentially break my machine for 22 and below in an attempt to "stay up to date"?

With as many people on the web complaining about this, and seeing as Adobe tests "upgrades" before they roll them out (right??) with crivers etc I have a hard time belieing this is a prudent way to go......

[codevilla]

Yep!
Version 23.2 here.
Work with Adjustment Layers with Lumetri adjusts seems impossible.
It looks like 10 fps playback preview or less.

[MartiCruz]

Any solutions regarding this issue??

I have an Imac i9

- 64gb RAM

- Radeon pro Vega 8GB

It is a powerful machine and I didn't have any problem with v2022, also working with ProRes proxy.

I'm having huge problems with speed performace inside premiere production.

Everytime I switch between projects premiere production gets really slow and I need to constantly close and reopen projects to get better performance but then after a short time the issue come back... It is frustrating and makes Premiere pro 2023.1 unsuable.

Please we do ask for an update to get this problem ASAP!

Thanks!

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hi Marti,

Can you try updating to 23.2? I believe that will solve this issue. It's a bug fix.

Thanks,
Kevin

[shaund20095421]

Using multicam on 2023 and the lag was making it almost unusable. Sometimes timeline wouldn't stop playing, had to crash out of program to stop. I seem to have found a solution which is working for now. I lowered the amount of set RAM available for Premiere to 44GB out of 64GB. Think I may have had it too high. Also keeping an eye on zoom handles in program monitor and set scratch disk to separate drive. Resetting preference files also helped for 30mins or so before problem came back.

[Robbinsfineart]

I had to update to a new mac with the M1 processor.  That fixed the issue using premiere pro 23.2 but now there is a loud buzzing noise which i will post in a new chat

[Joel235567261ts7]

I'm having similar issues. Just upgraded from PP2022 to 2023 and experience horrendous lags. I bring the same project into 2022 and all is fine. This is very disappointing Adobe. This version should not have been released like this. 

[DaveFII]

"This version should not have been released like this. "

But WHY?!?!  It is an "UPGRADE".  LOL

I am frustrated too.....I have never been a fan of forced or too-regular updates as I think they do not allow for enough testing and such BEFORE release.

Dont get me wrong --- if there is a legitimate BETTER tool or new featire that I actually want, it may be worth the pain.

But seems like they just redo existing things/rearrange stuff for the most part.

I used to be a wiz at WORD --- years ago...but they move/change stuff so often now, for the sake of "new", I cannot keep up.

The sadder thing here is not that I am old fogoey set in hisways and who doesnt like change, its that companies like Adobe DONT CARE....it is a revenue and marketing generator for them to be in constant flux.  SIGH.

Mod note: Edited for content. 

[Joel235567261ts7]

I was on PP 2022 for awhile, I had to pop over to Avid for the last 6 months for a project and while I like Premiere infinitely more... at least AVID works, even if it is clunky {abuse removed by moderator}. 

[MartiCruz]

Updating to v 23.2 did solve the issue! Was running a lot smoother than 23.1, hopefully this will sort the problem for good. At the moment I switched to anothe edit suite with mac studio M1 and no problems at all.

Thanks for the advice Kevin!

[jamesclayden]

Also have the same problem. 2023 Premiere is a mess.

Considering buying a new macbook just to be able to finish my projects as heard they still work okay with premiere 2023.

Super frustrating that my fairly decent machine is now a nightmare to use due to the lag. Again similar to another poster I experience a delay from clicking play, from selecting a different part of the timeline, a delay in general after many simple tasks.

Especially as soon as there is a after effects dynamic link or a lumetri involved everything gets much worse performance wise. I think it could be a GPU thing? 

i9-7900X CPU
96GB RAM
1TB NVME SSD
4TB SSD
Geforce 1080GTI

[shaund20095421]

Premiere 2023 doesn't work with some PCs I'm afraid. I took my project back to the 2022 vsn with the below and it works perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_5kdeXEbdQ&t=180s

[Adam Speedy]

Hello, OP here back after a few months. I just tested the 23.4 BETA with a new project and it's still slow and underperforming. What on earth, Adobe? Why is this so hard for you to fix?

Ironically, my proxies are making things slower on 23.x - the same proxies in 21 are working beautifully. What a joke

[Jorge Jaramillo Hdz]

23.3 it's seems more slow and sluggish than 23.2 with Lumetri and Adjustment layer.

Anyone else with this problem?

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hi,

Seems like we would be hoping ADOBE would provide help versus depending on other paying customers to figure out what is clearly a broken "new update".

And as far as "poor quality drivers".....well, the same drivers running 21 and 22 JUST FINE on my PC dont work for 23.....how is that a driver issue?

I hope you have solved your issue by now. The issue is not affecting all users so that is why I asked for more info. I always ask people having similar issues to try the latest studio drivers as a test. I did not know you were running the same drivers on an earlier version. Sorry about that. If you are still facing such issues, please file any bugs here.

Thanks,
Kevin

[Angus5C0C]

I 100% feel the same way. I can't believe how slow it is! And I'm on a very powerful computer.. 

32GB Ram

3.7 Ghz 6-core Intel Core Processor
Radeon Pro Vega 48 8GB Graphics Card

And over 600GB's of internal hard drive space available...

Is this really not enough to run the program I need to use for work day in, day out smoothly?

[Disclaimer]

I have a beefed-up pc and experience the same debilitating performance. It gets worse and worse as I add videos and sequences to the project file.

Ryzen 9 5950x 

RTX 3080TI

128GB DDR4 RAM

Program and cache on SSD.

What more do I need??? Why are the thumbnails so slow to load? In the past couple months, everything on my pc has been slow. Is it the geforce experience? I can't figure out WHY THIS IS HAPPENING!

[davez]

It isnt our machines. I built my (very rpobust) PC several years ago and no issues at all up til the latest "upgrade".

If all is fine on one version, then magically it all tanks with the next revision, IT IS THE REVISION.

I rolled back to the older one and all is perfect again.

Not our machines.

[Harold218260762hbe]

Has anyone tried 23.4? 

[whisen82]

Just started a new project on 23.4 and have gotten through the first segment with no real issues. I did have a couple times where I had to restart using Canon raw footage. But, a quick restart of Premiere not the system fixed it both times and then no issues with ProRes after color round trip from Resolve. 

[whisen82]

Ya, I've got to say after a couple of days the issues seem to be gone 🤞 Finally!

[jond32029763]

I'd love to agree with you but... https://vimeo.com/833819735/9d4248ab35?share=copy

Same project open on both 2022 vs 2023. I can't beleive i'm about to start looking at DaVinci. 🤦‍:male_sign:

[whisen82]

Yep, that sucks. I'm not experiencing that anymore on 2023.4 Clearly that's a big problem and not usable.