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@guillermosh and more on missing ICC profiles:
Epson printer profiles are missing in Photoshop manages color in the print dialog (Mac)
To use "Photoshop Manages Color" properly (to make accurate prints) you need access to the printer manufacturer's paper specific profiles, since you need to select the relevant paper profile in that dialog.
Using "Printer Manages Color" should work for Epson’s own papers, as long as the printer driver is correctly installed.
Printer Manages Color [based on t
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The Print dialog box should be listing profiles alphabetically, so why is your attached image IMG_4554.jpg showing K through R? Can you see the Epson profiles if you scroll up to where the E names would be listed?
The Photoshop profile menu can be very long, partly because for some unknown reason the Printer Profile menu lists profiles that have nothing to do with printing, like ACES and Rec.2020 which are for video editing only. Here is a tip for quickly scrolling to the Epson profiles: Afte
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@guillermosh a bit more detail on the "Airprint" thing ( and its not just relevant to Epson printers) :
Epson / Mac: Add printer, AirPrint issue, here are some notes about Apple’s built in (default) Gimp Print / Gutenprint based printer drivers.
Best avoided. It can print quite differently from the manufacturer's own driver software.
Does the print driver look different? some options have changed?
Are media names the same as previous drivers you've used, e.g.. is 'Premium Luster Photo Paper' mentioned or are the media types just simplified names like matte or gloss?
You'll be aware, I'm sure, that the selected media name in the driver must match the selection made when printing ICC profiling patches, (so the ICC profile and media type selection are linked) . BUT is the media name selected previously actually there in the list?
IF the media names listed differ (and have been simplified) then you are perhaps inadvertently using Apple’s default Gimp/ Gutenprint driver rather than Epson’s own. It's not just a matter of installing Epson driver software, you have to select it too. I do know it's very important to use Epson's own driver software. I tripped over this myself on a client site, the driver looked different and I put it down to an OSX update imposed style - took a while to work that one out.
Here's an example of what I'd expect to see in an Epson driver under "Media Type" for media name options:
Can you access print settings in an application other than Photoshop, try Preview?
If not, a thorough purge may be in order, perhaps install drivers (downloaded from Epson or your own printer manufacturers site) again:
1. Delete all instances of Epson printers from
System Settings (or System Preferences depending on Mac OS version) / Printers & Scanners -or- System Preferences>Print & Fax, whichever you have.
2. Then go to /Library/Printers and trash the whole Epson folder.
3. Delete the Epson LFP Remote Panel (IF you are using that utility).
4. Then go to Epson online and download the printer drivers yourself.
Do not let the Mac install the printer driver for you.
There’s one more tripwire - in System Settings (or System Preferences depending on Mac OS version) / Printers - - - , when adding the connected printer
[i.e. click the padlock, enter your password and click the “+” button]
- watch out for the “Use" selection - I recommend you do not select "Airprint" there under "use", but, rather, manually set "use” to the printer name, which will then call on the manufacturer’s own software rather than the default Apple driver (that’s based on Gimp Print / Gutenprint, which misses out some printing options such as specific manufacturers media names).
Ted Landau mac Guru had the same issue:https://www.macworld.com/article/224167/the-trick-to-finding-the-right-printer-driver-for-your-mac.h...
I hope this helps
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@guillermosh and more on missing ICC profiles:
Epson printer profiles are missing in Photoshop manages color in the print dialog (Mac)
To use "Photoshop Manages Color" properly (to make accurate prints) you need access to the printer manufacturer's paper specific profiles, since you need to select the relevant paper profile in that dialog.
Using "Printer Manages Color" should work for Epson’s own papers, as long as the printer driver is correctly installed.
Printer Manages Color [based on the media type selected] calls upon ICC printer profiles from a different installed folder*
[*usually a hidden one, this is so they don't get deleted inadvertently, more on that and how to find them below].
Epson ICC printer profiles may be missing in Photoshop after updating macOSX. This issue started with Mojave.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-and-macosmojave.html#epson-printer-profiles-missing
Adobe’s tips:-
To resolve this issue, reset the printing system in your Mac's system preferences and then add your Epson printer again.
- Reset the printing system.
For instructions, refer to Apple's support documentation: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203343#reset - Add your Epson printer again.
For instructions, refer to Apple's macOSX User Guide documentation: Add a printer on Mac - Relaunch Photoshop.
When you select Photoshop manages color in the “print” dialog, the “printer profile” dropdown should now provide you with a list of all the ICC printer profiles on your system. If not please read on.
The Epson installer puts them in hidden folders, but normally Photoshop can access them via a hidden link.
You may be able to find the profiles manually in the folder hierarchy
Are you working on a PC? If so, you may need help from Epson's support team.
Here are some Mac tips for when Photoshop can't find the Epson profiles:
I had to search for these myself on a client site once, took me quite a while and a lot of head scratching. But it means I now know how to find them
Basically, the printer profiles are in a folder hidden away in the system “library”
Navigate to
“Your hard disk name”/library/ printers/EPSON/InkjetPrinter2/ICCProfiles/ [hidden inside a “package”]
[Not in the “your username”/library/ ]
Screenshot below
Inside the ICCProfiles folder (see above) is another folder containing the printer name, e.g: Epson Stylus Pro 4900_4910.profiles
If you right click [or ‘control’ click] it and select "show package contents"
A contents folder appears
Now look inside that folder and you’ll find the ”resources" folder.
see screenshot below
These are the icc profiles which are used within the Epson driver [e.g. when you select Photoshop’s 'printer manages colour' option],
DO NOT DELETE OR MOVE THEM. It’s OK to copy of course.
SO - don't drag to move them as this actually removes them from the original folder
You can copy to your normal ICC profiles folder which is in the system library
[ computer name/hard disk name/Library/Colorsync/Profiles ]
Restart Photoshop, can you now see the profiles you copied across in Photoshop’s print dialog under "Photoshop manages color"?
I hope this helps
Happy Printing
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@GauchoPampa Helping is more difficult because some of your uploaded images are not opening.
One is apparently duplicated. In any case, if you want help, it's far better to place images into the text of your post [as I did here] otherwise, we have to click and wait and can only open one at a time
Use the image icon above the test box for this forum to do that .
You seem to have 2 issues,
Firstly you are not using the Epson software driver -
Secondly you wrote that you cannot see Epson profiles
I need to know where you are expecting to see an Epson printer profile? Please screenshot the relevant dialog box and label it. and add it inline in your message.
I did explain above how to copy the Epson profiles to the macOS folder that Photoshop can access, have you done that?
Using a USB cable does not mean you're not using the MacOS generic print driver software.
Below is the important setting (when adding the printer in System Settings / Printers & Scanners).
(on macOS Ventura this is called "Printers & Scanners")
The only way to see that option screen is to remove and re-add the printer in "add printer scanner and fax"
I wrote earlier:
- in System Settings (or System Preferences depending on Mac OS version) / Printers - - - , when adding the connected printer as below
[you'll need to click the padlock, enter your password]
In this dialog DO NOT select AIRPRINT in the Use: section
It's the selection or AirPrint here that loads the non original print driver.
You need the printer name showing, like above, that’s what bypasses the use of the default macOS print drivers.
I hope this helps
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The Print dialog box should be listing profiles alphabetically, so why is your attached image IMG_4554.jpg showing K through R? Can you see the Epson profiles if you scroll up to where the E names would be listed?
The Photoshop profile menu can be very long, partly because for some unknown reason the Printer Profile menu lists profiles that have nothing to do with printing, like ACES and Rec.2020 which are for video editing only. Here is a tip for quickly scrolling to the Epson profiles: After clicking open the Printer Profile menu, type E to go to the first menu item starting with E.
If the profiles are properly installed, they should show up in the E names as shown in the bottom half of picture below.
Hi @ZappaJul and NB, I have followed all your recommendations and still nothing.
The one thing that is not popping up is the AirPrint option.
These are the steps you recommend, with their corresponding screenshots:
1- Delete printer
2- Download and install Epson Driver
3- Add printer and click Use.
4- Select Software. Select the printer name. OK.
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4- Reopen Photoshop. Look for the Epson ICC Profiles. *Nothing comes up!*
Hi Neil @NB, colourmanagement . Thanks again for the follow up.
I did read your suggestions and the profiles are nowhere to be found. See attached jpgs.
In regards to you question "is that the 'Photoshop Manages Color' / ' Printer Profile' list you're showing?" the answer is YES. Thanks again for your help. I might try resetting the printing system @ExUSA.
Hi @ExUSA and @NB, colourmanagement
I am still stuck. I reset the printing system and selected the printer I am using.
I also for the 11th time reloaded the Epson Driver package.
Restarted the Macbook M4.
Its exactly the same.
The ICC Profiles for EPSON won't show up in Photoshop, and the Printing menu looks nothing like it used to.
It wont even let me select Print 16 Bit even though the opened file is 16 Bit.
Nothing seems to be working like it should ever since I updated to Tahoe.
@guillermosh that IS the Epson driver as one can see actual Epson media names, not just Matt/ glossy et.
I don't have Tahoe installed, so I can't search out those Epson profiles for you. I'm still using Ventura as I am wary about updating on a production machine.
Maybe the 'Find Any File' app would look right into the file structure and find them for you even if they are hidden in a package .
You can see here that it easily found the profile named 'Epson Stylus Pro 4900_4910 ArchivalMattePaper_MK.icc' for me and tells me (along the base of the results window) that it's in the library/Printers/EPSON/InkjetPrinter2/ICC profiles/Epson Stylus (printer name----) /Contents/resources folder on my system
I'd give the 'Find Any File' app a try, in your situation, as this is taking you a lot of time.
Once you find the profiles then COPY them to the library/colorsync folder where Photoshop can access them. see my previous instructions
OItherwise, this is becoming a question for Epson support, as they must know where they are installing their profiles [they have previously put them in a 'package' only accessible by the Epson driver software
[This installation is necessary, because when you select "printer manages color" and a certain media then the Epson driver selects their ICC profile for that media from that hidden folder. ]
The CORRECT behaviour is for Epson to also install them where Photoshop can find them too, but this has long been problematic for some users.
I hope this helps
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Thanks again @NB, colourmanagement . I'll see if the Find Any File app helps.
Yet even if I ignore the fact that none of the Epson ICC's are showing up, the Print Menu still looks completely different from my previous PS2 print menu. This does it look right to you? Like the CMYK Simualtion box, I never saw that until now. (See jpg below. )
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