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Frame substitution recursion attempt aborting after multiple attempts on file

Explorer ,
Sep 24, 2019 Sep 24, 2019

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I'm a beginner at Premiere Pro, and I just updated it to v13.1.5. I've been working on this project for months, and now that I updated I keep getting these errors "Frame substitution recursion attempt aborting after multiple attempts on file" "Error retrieving frame" (see attached). It has affected about 90% of my footage making my file unusable. I was online with Adobe Support for 2 hours yesterday with no resolution. Does anyone have any ideas on if this can even be fixed? I tried replacing my footage with the orginal again and still no luck. I also attached my computer specs. Hopefully I'm explaining this correctly since I'm a beginner.

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Community Beginner , May 26, 2020 May 26, 2020

Found a fix 🙂 In Premiere Pro, go to sequence and select delete render files. Then select all of the videos necessary in your timeline and go to sequence and select render selection. I had this same exact problem as you have. Hope this helps 🙂

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Explorer ,
May 25, 2021 May 25, 2021

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Although I despise workarounds because, WE SHOULDN’T HAVE TO!!!! – Adobe. Here’s what helped me.

Take the ‘offending’ clip(s); right click -> ‘render and replace’.

Take that result; right click -> ‘nest’.

Then re-apply all your effects to that ‘nested’ sequence.

Tedious double work, but it helped in my situation. And again, WE SHOULDN’T HAVE TO!!!

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Community Expert ,
May 25, 2021 May 25, 2021

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Have you tried resetting preferences and/or reseting your workspace?
Reset your preferences by holding shift+alt (or option) when you launch Premiere

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Community Beginner ,
May 25, 2021 May 25, 2021

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That's a great tip, thanks. Do you know if there is a similar trick to starting Premiere without plugins loading?

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Community Expert ,
May 28, 2021 May 28, 2021

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I don't believe there is, unless you uninstal the plugins.
@Kevin-Monahan any hidden tricks?

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New Here ,
Jul 09, 2021 Jul 09, 2021

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I was having this issue when I was bringing in footage at 59.94fps and Adobe was reading it as 29.97fps and stretching it.

To fix I did this: https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro/59-94p-recorded-avchd-video-previews-as-29-97fps/m-p/106...

 

Right click file in project window and click Modify>Interoret and charge fps from there.

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New Here ,
Aug 15, 2021 Aug 15, 2021

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Try nesting the offending images or sequence of images. Very often I get this error on exports where I have complex moves within jpegs and/or overlays or filters. It works for me everytime.

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New Here ,
Sep 14, 2021 Sep 14, 2021

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Another solution, check (unistall) your plugins or addons, I unistall cinegy daniel 2 and the error gone.

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Adobe Employee ,
Apr 11, 2022 Apr 11, 2022

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Cezar,

Sorry about the misunderstanding. Yes, if the "Delete Render Files" item cannot be selected in the menu (it is disabled), all the video preview files are deleted for the project. I hope that info helps you!

Thanks,
Kevin

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New Here ,
Dec 17, 2021 Dec 17, 2021

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Changed the location for video and audio previews from Scratch Disk setttings, it worked like a charm.

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Explorer ,
Feb 07, 2022 Feb 07, 2022

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My solution is to simply change the sequence settings.
Specifically I found the following worked for me:

- changing the Video Preview File Format to Quicktime
- changing the codec to None (Uncompressed RGB 8-bit)
- Reducing the video preview size (width around 500 for eg)

These settings also seem to make playback smoother. I discovered this through experimentation, so have a play around and you may find other settings improver performance even more.

2022 and still half my Adobe expertise seems related to avoiding bugs...

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New Here ,
Apr 26, 2022 Apr 26, 2022

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VLC will do it, free. Download from Windows Store, convert your file to YouTubeHD, load that into Premiere. File is approximately the same size, and now all is cool.

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New Here ,
Jun 28, 2022 Jun 28, 2022

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For what it's worth, I just ran into a simialr problem.  I was recording an hour long presentation to a SD card.  The video was broken down into 3 video segments on my card ( this tends to be normal).  I usally piece the 3 segments back without issue.  On this occassoion, the second clip came up with the mention frame recursion error. I'm using the latested version of Adobe CC.  It was frustrating.  After reading some of the relpies, I tried a much older version of Premier Pro and it worked.  I should mention that the clip would play properly in my VLC player and when I  loaded the raw clip to youtube, it played as well.  Could this have something to do with the problem occurring at the exact moment as a new clip was made?  Not sure, as this was the first issue that I have had.  Hopefully, this might further the discussion.  

Cheers

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New Here ,
Oct 03, 2022 Oct 03, 2022

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Found another fix to this issue... for some reason my footage was 49.99 fps... very odd frame rate indeed, I didnt record it to be fair... I had to use Handbreak to change the frame rate to a more common fps like 25fps. After that, Premiere rendered no problem. So just check the frame rates of the original footage. 

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New Here ,
Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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Never update anything during the middle of an active edit.

Editor Rule #1(ish) : preserve the project file at all costs. Save new versions DAILY - if not more - with a stirct and universal naming convention : ProjectName_OtherInfo_YYMMDD. Auto save helps every 15-20 mins but you want to "Save as" each session. 

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New Here ,
Nov 16, 2022 Nov 16, 2022

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XML out to Resolve as a last resort

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New Here ,
Nov 25, 2022 Nov 25, 2022

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Had the same issue after updating to Premiere Pro 2023 on a project from 2022 

Fix: Sequence > Sequence Settings > Under Video Previews my Preview File Format is set to Quicktime - Switch Codec from Animation to Apple Pro Res 422

 

System:  Thinkpad P53 - Intel Xeon, Nvidia RTX5000, Windows 10 Pro 64

Footage: .MP4 File // MPEG Movie // Codec Type: MP4/MOV H.264 4:2:0 (Full Range) 

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