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Do not abandon Substance for Steam licenses

Explorer ,
Apr 02, 2024 Apr 02, 2024

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This is a message of concern about Adobe's ongoing behaviour, from someone who owns Substance licenses through Steam. I was a former customer of Allegorithmic, before they became part of Adobe. When they did, the cost to continue maintenance for Substance Designer and Substance Painter became really expensive, upon the transition of all Substance applications to a subscription service.

 

This is why I turned to Steam; I could purchase a new license every 2-3 years, which enabled me access to newer features, whilst remaning at a price point I could afford. Since then, however, the option to purchase a new version of Substance Stager was pulled from Steam in Dec 2022 and, in Jan 2024, I understand Substance Sampler was removed as well, citing "poor sales". Epic Games has provided partcipants in their Titan Project free, six-month subscription licenses for Painter and Modeler, but given the latter's poor reception on Steam, I have a fear that this will be summariliy pulled in 2025...

 

I realise that Adobe is a business, and has its own bills to pay. However, the company must recognise that a large percentage of its users are not only large businesses, but also sole traders - many of us simply cannot afford to pay 500 Pounds/Euros/Dollars EVERY YEAR, just for the privilege of using your software. But we need to make use of it nevertheless.

 

I would request, therefore, that Adobe does not abandon its Substance for Steam licenses, as they are an important lifeline for many of us creatives in your community. I am further requesting that Adobe reinstate Stager and Sampler to the Steam Store, given major features for these are still being provided to subscription-holders, and Steam users should have the same rights.

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Explorer ,
Nov 02, 2024 Nov 02, 2024

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I agree that Steam versions are very important for some people.
Why do you fear that Modeler or Painter might not be available on Steam in 2025?

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Explorer ,
Nov 15, 2024 Nov 15, 2024

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Modeler 2024 owners on Steam get free Updates in 2025:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1745780/view/4463723934172315725

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New Here ,
Nov 19, 2024 Nov 19, 2024

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Now it was complete removed from steam. I had planned to buy it in December 😞

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Explorer ,
Nov 20, 2024 Nov 20, 2024

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 20, 2024 Nov 20, 2024

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@hassan_2297 what country are you in?  It shouldn't be removed so I'm investigating.

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 20, 2024 Nov 20, 2024

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It shouldn't be removed from the app because of age ratings.  I just checked this and we have the right settings.  Something else must be happening so I'm investigating.

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 20, 2024 Nov 20, 2024

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By the way, while I investigate why painter/modeler is not showing up for certain people, I wanted to state that we are not giving up on Steam.  We are currently discussing possible changes to the distribution model but there have been no decisions yet, but it will include Steam.

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Explorer ,
Nov 20, 2024 Nov 20, 2024

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Great that it will be available on Steam! Thank you for the info.
It seems to work on Steam in Germany now.

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 20, 2024 Nov 20, 2024

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Ok it should be fixed now.  It turns out that we didn't do all of the steps with the new age ratings, but now Modeler and Painter should show up for Germany now.

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New Here ,
Nov 22, 2024 Nov 22, 2024

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Thank you for the quick response and help. So can I wait for Substance Painter 2025 in December, or does it make sense to buy it now? Because at the moment "the decisions are not mate" and it's not sure how long it will be available on Steam right?

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New Here ,
Jan 01, 2025 Jan 01, 2025

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Hello, do we have any news about Substance painter on steam for 2025? Thanks 

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New Here ,
Jan 02, 2025 Jan 02, 2025

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same question, planning to buy painter on steam but I prefer to wait for the 2025 version to get one year of updates

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 06, 2025 Jan 06, 2025

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Any news on Substance Painter 2025 on steam? waiting to buy when 2025 is confirmed to be on steam or not.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 07, 2025 Jan 07, 2025

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@alexandred64735415 @Frank_Art I made a post under the SP Forums yesterday and it is confirmed that Substance Painter 2025 is coming to steam. It will be on the steam store when they publish the first updates of 2025.

 

We'll just have to wait likely some time this month I'd assume. (there's no exact release schedule)

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New Here ,
Jan 07, 2025 Jan 07, 2025

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Good news !

I am working right now with the trial version, I hope it will be out before february

thanks !

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New Here ,
Jan 10, 2025 Jan 10, 2025

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If I used it everyday I'd pay the subscription but, like many others - I use it in conjunction with many other software's and can not justify the prices for on a proportion of use

If I used Adobe's software daily, I’d consider the subscription worthwhile. However, like many others, I use it alongside various other tools and can't justify the cost for how little I actually rely on it - especially considering all the subscriptions modern life is throwing at me. I'm praying they put a 2025 version on Steam so I can get the updated tools. 

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 10, 2025 Jan 10, 2025

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@BillyBadTopology They've already confirmed they're releasing SP 2025 on steam. They've also already submitted the information for the steam page on the Steam database, it's just not public yet as they're still working on the update.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 10, 2025 Jan 10, 2025

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The only thing we're unsure of at the moment is if the pricing model will stay the same. (both the pricing and/or whether it remains as perpetual this upcoming cycle or they turn it into a subscription model.)

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New Here ,
Jan 10, 2025 Jan 10, 2025

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I don't know why but I was able to subsribe to painter only for 19.90€/month with credits for the library

before that I was only able to see subsciption for the 3 softwares (Stage, Substance and Designer) at 47.90€/month

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 10, 2025 Jan 10, 2025

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@alexandred64735415 Yeah I'm not sure why but I did also notice the price seems to be a lot higher for the 3D Collection than I remember. It was $20 a month at one point from what I remember but now it's $50 when I checked earlier today.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 10, 2025 Jan 10, 2025

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I'm hoping that even if they raise the price on steam that they at least keep the perpetual licenses..

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